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"Yes, do as I say!" (i.imgur.com)

submitted 1 year ago by muhyb to c/[email protected]

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I’m moving my posts from Reddit to Lemmy before delete them.

This post is from 2021-11-11.

It should've been apt-get but welp.

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[+] [email protected] 86 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

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[–] drew_belloc 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, my hand still slaps my face everytime i remember

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But why? Wasn't it an error in the deb package of steam that did that?

[–] drew_belloc 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I believe it was before system76 created they own mirrors, so at the time a feel packages where handle by them and all the rest by the normal ubuntu mirrors, so steam would ask for a different gtk version them the desktop so the pop shop would refuse to install steam whitout updating the mirrors, if linus had clicked on the dropdown menu and choose the flatpak version none of this would happen, but instead he used the terminal and ignored the warning because was the first time that he used

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly, I cannot blame him for that. This requires deep knowledge of the subject and the fix is not easy to spot.

I have been using Linux for a decade now on desktop and server systems and he'll, even I would probably have told the package manager to go do it's shit and borked my system. Because getting weird errors, warnings and conflicts is just "the Linux experience" (TM)

I hope more flatpack based distris come up or stuff like nix gains some following. This would make it a lot easier for people with less knowledge to get into the Linux space without much technical knowledge or the possibility to Bork the system (to a degree). Meanwhile classic distros can serve the more technically inclined audience.

[–] drew_belloc 2 points 1 year ago

I also don't really judge him, but i think that even thought the ideia was to go as a complete newbie to linux he should at least do some real research or whatch a feel youtube videos about before doing the challenge, i first installed ubuntu and after a afternoon i don't really wanned to keep using linux, them i watched some videos and started to use pop os on a live usb, after 2 days of using it instead of booting normally on windows 10 i wiped windows and never looked back

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It works either way, apt or apt-get.

[–] muhyb 25 points 1 year ago

I know but the command he used was apt-get.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I remember apt had a colored progress bar unlike apt-get. Don't know how it is now, using pacman and yay

[–] drew_belloc 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Did you just say "i use arch btw" whithout saying it?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Wasn't my intention, but I guess I did

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I love how unnecessary it was to the overall context lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

yay gang

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What is this referencing? In which video did this happen?

[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 year ago (13 children)

One of the Linux challenge videos. Either part 1 or 2.

The Linux community loves hating on Linus for this, but honestly, it was a bug that popos has now fixed, and the video genuinely shows how difficult Linux can be for the average user.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Found it, thanks.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Can you link? edit https://youtu.be/0506yDSgU7M

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (12 children)

For real though, what's the best way to install steam? I assume it's the *.deb directly from the site.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Probably through your GUI package manager. I’d be surprised if your package manager didn’t have a native binary or a flatpack.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

flatpak install steam

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Flatpak can't launch non-steam games via Steam :(

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah it can*

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Is there a way to do it without breaking the sandbox? I've been looking for a few days for a way to do this without any luck.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

What do you mean by breaking the sandbox. You add permissions to let it see other drives if that's what you mean. Other then that, I just let it see my home and add non steam games. They come up like you would with Windows.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

https://github.com/SteamGridDB/steam-rom-manager/issues/254 https://github.com/flathub/com.valvesoftware.Steam/issues/935 https://github.com/flathub/com.valvesoftware.Steam/issues/278 https://github.com/flathub/com.mojang.Minecraft/issues/51

I can't figure out a way to do it without using flatpak-spawn maybe I should create a thread on Lemmy to see if anyone else knows a way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You just give it permission to see whatever directory you're launching the exe from

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I'm not launching an exe I am trying to launch flatpaks and appimages

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Depends on the distro. pacman -Sy steam does the trick in Arch.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I think I've read it somewhere that Valve recommends the flatpak. Maybe not, but I would definitely go that route.

[–] muhyb 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I prefer my distro's binary but after the last glibc update I convinced the flatpak version has less problems.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And the flatpack version was thoroughly convinced :)

[–] muhyb 1 points 1 year ago

I recently started thinking like that too after the last glibc update. :)

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