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I enjoy a bit of anime, but I don't follow all the news and shows - I just pick up stuff by recommendations or a bit of searching.

So, people who actually know what they're talking about - are any of these actually good? Are any so bad they're worth completely avoiding? Any of them have particularly off-putting / offensive "fan service"?

Teppen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!,
Akudama Drive,
Black Lagoon,
Akatsuki no Yona,
Chikyuu Shoujo Arjuna,
Appleseed

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Appleseed is decent Scifi. If you like it though you should definitely check out Ghost in the Shell which is by the same author.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks, I've already seen the original Ghost in the Shell movie, are there any other good ones?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you like those, it is likely that you might also like:

BLAME! - really wonderful world setting

No.6 - story about a dystopian future. an underrated gem.

Paprika - a classic. futuristic psychological horror. it is pretty scary in the way black mirror is scary.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Thank you! I've added those to my watch-list :-) Paprika used to be on an old watch-list years ago, not sure how I forgot about it!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yona of the Dawn (Akatsuki no Yona) is fantastic. It's a two-cour adaptation of a fantasy story (with some inspiration from Korean history/myth I think?) with some coming-of-age undertones. While it didn't adapt the whole story, what it does have is still excellent.

IIRC it is a shoujo story, with the sorts of attractive male characters and suggestions of romance you might expect. But it's definitely appreciable even if you're not here for those things. There's the politics and intrigue, the drama and adventure of the journey, and the character development.

Incidentally, it actually aired during the same seasons as another two-cour series that partly shares its core premise -- Cross Ange. (And the composer for Cross Ange even wrote one of the theme songs for Yona, specifically ED2.) However, Cross Ange is a very different show, in tone, content, plot, and more. I also (unironically) consider it an excellent show with a gripping plot, but for rather different reasons. That said, if you specifically prefer to avoid sexual fanservice, this probably won't be your cup of tea, despite being a solid story in its own right.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks for the thoughtful reply! Since posting I'm about halfway through Yona and really enjoying it for the adventure and action ... less fussed about the romance TBH (I like a nice slow-burning romance, but this feels a bit forced).

I might have a look at Cross Ange, it depends on how intrusive the fan service is!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your reply made me go wiki-walk the fandom wiki for Yona of the Dawn...and remember some of the more dramatic moments, the memory of which nearly brought tears to my eyes. Indeed, it's excellent.

Cross Ange is...quite different an experience, to say the least. Its "fanservice" -- more like sexual elements, more generally -- is integrated into its plot, with at least some of it an intentional portrayal of the demeaning circumstances that horrible people force onto others. More generally, the show doesn't at all shy away from particularly harsh storytelling, themes, and social commentary. In stark contrast to the subtleties and elegance of Yona of the Dawn, Cross Ange's storytelling takes a more aggressive, uncompromising, and at times savage style. The result is a much more viscerally emotional experience, which I'll admit isn't everyone's cup of tea. Opinions on it vary between those that hate it, those that think it's hot garbage but ironically awesome, and those (like myself) that unironically think it's an excellent work.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok cool, I've added Cross Ange to the list and I'll have it a fair crack :-)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry I just spouted a lot about it by accident, haha.

To be clear, I don't mind if you don't like it. :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

FWIW I did read all of it!

Sometimes it's good to get a whole string of consciousness off one's mind :-)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Black Lagoon is big on action, violence, and gore. Despite that, it's got some decent writing and characterization in places. Not terribly much fan service as far as I can remember (and the main cast are adults, so no schoolgirl upskirt shots or any of that nonsense), although it's been a while since I watched it. Recommended with reservations, if you like violent action movies. Avoid if you have a weak stomach when it comes to violence.

Akatsuki no Yona is a fairly standard shoujo action fantasy with reverse harem overtones. I think this was one of those shows where the manga was still ongoing and so the anime ended before the story did. I watched it once when it first came out, and it didn't make all that much of an impression, so I'd say it was neither terrible nor brilliant of its kind. Not heavy enough on fan service to make an impression that way either (probably some topless bishounen in there somewhere, though), but shoujo usually isn't.

The others on your list, I haven't seen.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you, that's a very thorough reply! Me and my partner don't find gory stuff nearly as off-putting as sexism, so it sounds like we'll be ok with Black Lagoon.

We'll watch Yona with expectations suitably muted ... TBH if I watch an Anime with low expectations and it turns out ok then I'm happy!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah, Black Lagoon has its nasty bits, but it isn't especially sexist—the female lead is pretty kickass.

Oh, wait, I have seen Akudama Drive (25 years of anime means that I misplace titles now and again, heh.) Action again, less gore than Black Lagoon. I don't remember about fan service either way, so it probably has a low to average amount. The female characters were more than trophies for the males, at least. It was good enough to stand out among the other stuff that was airing that season, not so brilliant that I remembered the title three years later. Make of that what you will.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Cool, thanks :-)

I can't remember the titles of most of the Anime I've seen TBH!

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