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Started in mid November and despite repeated requests from Tuta(nota) and reassurances from MS, it's still happening and MS have gone silent on the subject.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is just another attempt by Micro$uck to make everyone use their email services. Micro$uck doesn’t want any competition, they want to rule the computer world

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if this is anticompetitive or anti-privacy. I doubt that Microsoft is even remotely concerned about the “competition” that tuta poses.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

You’re right, it is probably an anti-privacy thing. God forbid they can’t do the telemetry and other nefarious that they do

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Well MS being anti competitive as usual. Side note, I like Tuta very much, finally an independent provider, but I would never use it as they don't provide IMAP/SMTP.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

On my job, they use Microsoft as main workspace, so one time when they tried to e-mail me on my personal e-mail, i never received one, they always sent again to my protonmail.... IDK why Microsoft does it.. but now it makes me think Microsoft is even more evil than i thought

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

It's possible that your work has problems with spam and has thus set up their own spam filter and that filter might be more aggressive.

There are also ways to change the spam filtering in m365 mail.

It's also possible that your work hasn't setup mail properly and protonmail is the one that rejects the mails. We had an issue at work where OOF auto replies didn't work to external gmails (and probably others) because Gmail rejected the emails (I had confirmed that Gmail was the one that rejected it via the email traces in exchange). That wasn't Microsoft's fault.

I can send stuff to my proton mail without issues from two different Microsoft 365 mails.

One missed email should not be interpreted as malicious intent. It's also honestly quite likely someone just misspelled or something.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Soo.. Proton is on block lists, Tuta(nota) too.. What sort of privacy friendly e-mail will NOT get blocked, or listed as spam. Asking for a friend.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Those are the good providers. If there were another good provider and this is being done with intent than they will just block that domain as well. I use a custom domain with proton, I think that would protect against this but maybe some folks more engaged could chime in before you take that as advice.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

bumble doesn't let you use an @tuta.io address for your account

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

YouTube is clucking down on adblockers and ff BiGatesSoft is throwing fans at the shit with tutanota

It seems like Big Tech started noticing the thread of privacy respecting apps and services

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Update: Emails from Tutanota.com no longer go to Spam in Outlook.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I hope everyone here has deleted their Microsoft account ;)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

It's not about us. It's about the rest of the world, a large portion of whom uses M365. These blocks mean we can't communicate with potential employers, family, government institutions, universities, etc.

Here I am, maintaining several block lists (max of 500 entries per list) on our M365 tenant of spam and phishing domains and addresses, and not a one comes from Tuta, Proton, or any other privacy provider. Nearly all are gmail, outlook, and icloud, with a few customs sprinkled in. Their claim that it's to fight spam is BS.