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Hi all!

Do we need a /c/news and/or /c/politics?

I know it's kinda confusing. After all, where else have you been getting local news and politics all this time? But those communities are actually /c/localnews and /c/tucsonpolitics.

So here's the dillemma - we get far more engagement on national-level news. Yet that's technically against the rules here.

So what should we do?

Should we open up new communities for national level discourse?

I think I floated the idea before but the community was generally against it at the time.

Many of the people engaging are Tucsonans operating from other instances, which I think is super cool and shows that there is value in people having a local forum to discuss national news and politics.


On the future of tucson.social:

I think the future lies with Mbin, not Lemmy.

For those who aren't a complete FOSS nerd like me - Mbin is a fork of Kbin that, in their own words:

Mbin is focused on what the community wants, pull requests can be merged by any repo owner (with merge rights in GitHub). Discussions take place on Matrix then consensus has to be reached by the community. If approved by the community, only one approval on the PR is required by one of the Mbin maintainers. It's built entirely on trust.

In short - it's moving faster than Kbin ever was in feature contributions and has even overtaken Lemmy in terms of daily merges. I expect that it could be the dominant "threadiverse" platform in a few years and I think that's where tucson.social will need to be.

Right now that's unfeasible, since that would mean essentially abandoning the instance and starting fresh, so I'm looking into ways to migrate everything over - so everyone isn't required to sign up again.

Then there's the mobile client compatibility. Perhaps Mbin will have a lemmy compatible API layer somewhere in the future. Perhaps mobile clients will catch up. Either way, that also requires more time.

Suffice it to say, tucson.social isn't moving to Mbin anytime this year, or even early next year. In the meantime, I'll probably try to reason out my own lemmy>mbin migration script to speed things along.


So what say you, tucson.social users/contributors?

TL;DR - Do we need communities for national level discourse here at tucson.social? Also, we're planning to eventually move to Mbin and I'm keeping folks informed about those plans.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Maybe just a /c/news for non local news. Can't really think of any politics that wouldn't fit in either a general /c/news or in /c/tucsonpolitics.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Please give negative feedback constructively as a comment rather than a downvote. A bunch of downvotes gives me nothing to go off of and I'll simply proceed with what the engagement data suggests.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm personally not coming here for anything other than local information.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Understood, which is why the existing communities need to remain exactly as they are. The new communities shouldn't be auto-added to anyone's subscriptions unless they view the "all local" feed.

I'm not trying to shove national news into anyones feed, just trying to give the folks who really want to participate in those discussions a place to do so. As of now, I feel bad deleting non-local content because they have 3-4 comments by the time I get to them. So, rather than deleting I was thinking of crossposting to the national feed before deleting as a way to migrate these users to the new, more national focused communities.

All in all, I want to reduce the noise that national discourse introduces to our local feeds while providing a new space for that discussion to capture the engagement.