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I have a TrueNAS server at home and thought I could easily connect it to my phone (Pixel 7) as a network drive but was surprised to learn that Android doesn't have a built in feature for that.

iOS/iPadOS does have this to my surprise built in via the 'Files' app.

Or did I just not look hard enough in the Android settings? (I know there are 3rd party apps for this)

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I think this is a function that should be delegated to an app, so that users can choose from a variety of options. Having it built in would restrict that choice. Kind of like keyboards.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

In iOS it's a function of the Files app but since the Files app comes with the OS by default I called it built in.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

iOS, as far as I remember, only supports WebDav. Which is useless with an SFTP server, ofc. And yes, there is the solution of installing another file server, configuring it, maintaining it, ripping a new hole into the Firewall, and fiddling around with file permissions, but that sucks, obviously. You could of course buy (or even subscribe to, I believe) a third party, closed sourced, app.

Then there's Android, with FOSS apps like RemoteFiles, because sideloading.
Or just mount it with rclone.

And in my case, I don't need an actual mount anyway, because the FOSS Keepass2Android has native SFTP support, because it makes sense to have it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

While I agree, a keyboard is always included in a phone

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why not both?

I shouldn't have to wade through possibly ad-filled, data-collecting, unknown third party apps to do a basic function...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I think some phone manufacturers do offer a files app, I don't know which ones have smb capabilities though. Regardless, it is an app, not a part of the OS. Also sounds like that's how Apple implements it too, except they probably don't let you use a different app.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah im already mad i cant change the default file management system in non root androids

[–] xcjs 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not built in, but I generally recommend Solid Explorer for that functionality: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.solidexplorer2&hl=en_US&gl=US

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] xcjs 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is that the official distribution link or a personal mirror?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My Samsung phone does have that feature in the My Files app that comes pre installed. I don't use it because File Manager+ is so much better. And I have access to my SFTP, LAN and NAS. I am not associated with the app. Just enjoy it and recommend it because I find it very useful.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, was about to write that My Files comes with support for SMB, FTP, and SFTP.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

There are plenty of third party apps that do this. The integrated file explorer on Samsung devices supports ftp, sftp and smb.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What do you even do with files on an iOS device?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use it to access my Syncthing folders.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To what end? Are there iOS apps that can open the files?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I can open PDFs, images, text or audio files in the Files app natively.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

On the flip side, I've been using FX file explorer for this for years with no issues, but my roommate on the latest iPhone (a year ago) encountered a pretty horrific oversight in the default Files app's way to handle this (and no option to use third party apps).

Whenever she tried to copy more than 2GB from the network drive to the phone via Files, the phone would completely lock up and freeze (and stop transferring, which I confirmed by looking at read operations on the home server). She had to hard reboot and copy the files over multiple operations instead of just queuing up 50GB of audiobooks once and letting it transfer in the background. It turns out the Files app handles network assets by loading them all into RAM and then writing them to the iPhone's NAND, and if you try to perform an operation that takes more than the phone's current available RAM it just does the Apple equivalent of a bluescreen.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know what? I never noticed that.

The stock files app is lacking to say the least. Try Material Files and optionally Round Sync which will allow you to access all rclone supported remotes in the material files app.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Which OS do you run? Android just isn't enough anymore these days.

Did you try material files?

3rd party apps are somewhat funny on android since every app is 3rd party on another android os device.

I am connected to my nextcloud and my proton drive via the "built in" files app from grapheneos.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Which OS do you run? Android just isn’t enough anymore these days.

I 100% agree with this. Different Android "skins" can be so different from one another in look and feel and capabilities I would qualify them as separate Operating Systems which run Android Apps.

Same as with Linux Distros. They all use the same kernel and same low level components like system-d, bash, glibC, ... but can offer vastly different capabilites and user experiences.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The post says Pixel 7, so Google Android and Google wants Drive customers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've got a Pixel 6 but another OS

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

No additional qualifier means default OS of the device, obviously.

[–] alonely0 5 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

The app in the first link is pretty old, just so anyone knows. If there have been vulnerabilities in the last 6 years this may not have addressed them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

If it is WebDAV, DAVx5 has a feature that makes those shares available as a local volume. An sFTP app can be used to xfer files.

TrueNAS probably has a service for synchronized folders like google drive. I don't know how to access NFS or SMB transparently.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

That's not something I ever though of. Anyway I use Lineage OS with F-droid and I personally wouldn't choose to lock myself under Apple

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

MiXplorer, Folder Sync Pro and more

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Does TrueNAS have a web UI that works well on mobile browsers for file download and upload? If it does then could probably use for simple scenarios.