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WWE SURVIVOR SERIES: WARGAMES! Discussion Thread 11/25/23 (media.kbin.social)

submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Tonight, WWE is LIVE from Chicago with Survivor Series: Wargames! The card for the show includes:

Men’s WarGames Match: Drew McIntyre & Judgment Day vs. Seth “Freakin” Rollins, Randy Orton, Cody Rhodes, Jey Uso and Sami Zayn
Women's WarGames Match: Becky Lynch, Bianca Belair, Charlotte Flair & Shotzi vs. Bayley, IYO SKY, Kairi Sane & Asuka
Women's World Championship: Rhea Ripley vs. Zoey Stark
Intercontinental Championship: Gunther vs. The Miz
Dragon Lee vs. Santos Escobar

And more!

Show starts LIVE at 8pm EST | 5pm PST on Peacock. Check your local listings for more information.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

😂😂 Punk really followed Cody

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

What a pop for Orton.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

while for the most part I have appreciated they have up on Raw V. Smack Down for Survivor Series, but part of me really hoped to sure the WWE Universe with how good a Nick Aldis v. Adam Peirce match would be.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Does WWE recognize they are both NWA World Heavyweight Champions? I think that's a neat thing they should be pointing out even without a match between them, I'm not even sure Adam can still go, he's been retired for 10 years. It really would have been great to see, maybe WWE could come back around to this for Mania since they have like 10 hours of time to fill those nights.

It feels kind of like the Attitude Era when the WWF barely if at all recognized that the Stooges, Patterson & Brisco, were big wrestlers in their day.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

@JelloBrains @n7gifmdn @TellumSiege who knows with HHH at the helm. 2 years ago no way, but I have heard that Trips actually has Flair's old Domed Globe on his office wall.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

@SquaredCircle @n7gifmdn @TellumSiege Two NWA real worlds CHAMPIONS would be a good old school fight. Unfortunately between the casuals and the Smarks it would get booed out of the building

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And the roof is gone...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I saw the match ended with twelve minutes to eleven. Figured something big would happen lol.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What do they show on Peacock Premium Plus or whatever the no-ads version is called during all these ads? I forget every month how many ads there are until the PLE is on and they start running.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

According to Cole they are showing them how this match came to be.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm not too disappointed in spending only $5 instead of $10 then, I can deal with the ads to miss the recaps. I just wondered if premium customers got segments or something, if it's just videos I'm not upgrading.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I would gladly pay the $10 (or more) to get the actual WWE network back. The ability to start live events from the beginning alone, not to mention how much better/easier it was to find old stuff. Peacock being locked into the Season X Episode Y just doesn't work right for Wrestling

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

now this is some #truth. And that's #WhatsUp

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

I love the reaction Dom gets. He's like the Don Callis of WWE.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Who do you guys expect to win this? Team Judgment day or team Cody and friends?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

If it's really Orton coming, then Orton almost has to win. Otherwise, I'd like Judgement Day to win, but in winning the cracks continue, I almost expected Damien to bring the briefcase with him just in case he wanted to use it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Cody. There could be some shenanigans with moneu in the bank/rollins, but Cody will win the match even if RKO no shows or heel turn or whatever

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

I'm leaning team Cody

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Gotta think teasing the possibility of Orton not showing up can only backfire if he is there

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

I take it back, that was really well done

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

@SquaredCircle @TellumSiege well bringing Punk back is about the most WWE thing they could do. They gotta fuck with a good thing right? Well hopefully that means Roman is finally going to lose his title.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well guess I'm watching the press conference...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

...And TK's Twitter account.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

lulz

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Gonna be one hell of a bender lmao

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I'm so happy they realized that Santos works best as his NXT heel character. I love this guy's work and hope he gets pushed towards a title when they are all done breaking records just to break them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

I think this is the first time I've seen him since he lost his mask at Triplemania a few years ago. Feels like he is missing something, but I can't tell what it is.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm not familiar with his NXT work, but this is way better than what he was doing the rest of the year

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

In NXT he led the Legado Del Fantasma, clearly an homage to the LWO, but they were heels and had Elektra Lopez instead of Zelina Vega as their manager. On the main roster, he was made second fiddle to Rey Mysterio and forced to be the crappy face we've seen this year. All around his heel work is head and shoulders above his work with the LWO. Obviously, that's my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This place is going to explode if Punk shows up. The crowd sounds great regardless.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

@SquaredCircle @TellumSiege at this point in history I would be embarassed to be from Punk's home town

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

I'm amazed sometimes by how much Cole sounds like a parody of his Video-game self.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

I guess Rhea is s a heel to Zoey so her retention puts us at Good Guys 2 - 2 Bad Guys

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Am I crazy or was that a Pato O'Ward big head in the crowd?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

anybody keeping score at home for survivor series, GOOD GUYS 2 -0 BAD GUYS

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Miz's "knee to the groin" of GUNTER looked a lot more like a knee to the gut, which isn't much better.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

"Dragon Lee vs. Santos Escobar"

As a Lucha Libre AAA fan this one peekd my interest.

I'm out of the loop, usually I only watch WWE PPVs, partially because they do such a good job presenting the backstory of each match I don't feel like I have to watch the weekly show.

Last I recall both of these fellows were on NXT. Is this a pre-show match? I had stopped watching the pre-show as they present the same info during the PPV, but this would be worth tuning in for.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

I was very disappointed by the number of times that either team celebrated their success rather than taking advantage of the situation, not the least being Lynch/Flair hug in the middle of the match

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm a non-WWE watcher also but from what I can tell the Dragon Lee / Escobar match is part of the PPV card. Apparently it was supposed to be Carlito instead of Dragon Lee but the former was "attacked" on Smackdown and is too hurt to wrestle.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

@TellumSiege @n7gifmdn sounds like a better choice than Carlito to me!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Escobar used to be Hijo de Fantasmo, no?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

bull! After Bayley's "save" askua's shoulders where still down. Shotzi should have got the win.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Even in defeat Dragon Lee looked great in this WWE PPV debut.

Good Guys 2 - 1 Bad Guys

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Good match, Iyo might have spot of the night already locked up

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Bianca dual wielding is great

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Normally I'd give AEW the viewing priority but I'm too morbidly curious about the slim chances of Punk showing up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

As long as Punk stays away from AEW the world would be better

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

I don't blame you. I'll be tuning in once Collision ends for the exact same reason.