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### About Community Tracking and helping #redditmigration to Kbin and the Fediverse. Say hello to the decentralized and open future. To see latest reeddit blackout info, see here: https://reddark.untone.uk/

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Another subreddit posted the date he said it, which I think added to it - He said it on April 19th of this year - https://www.gq.com/story/steve-huffman-reddit-public-tiktok-ban - that aged poorly very very quickly

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder if the author will be contacting him for a follow-up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I wonder if the author will be contacting him for a follow-up.

Spez: How dare you record a private conversation showing my hypocrisy?!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

You mean m/agedlikeavocado

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If this is how the admins choose to act, so fucking be it. I'll deltree my 12 year old account and never go back. As it stands, the fediverse is already my new home, and the users who decide to remain on reddit can explain to all the new users what the fuck went wrong.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The only people on reddit who are against the blackout are conservative assholes who hate picket lines. They're going to be the majority of remaining users.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Nah I’m “conservative” (at least that’s what they call me on Reddit now), and most of us support this blackout. The site has been hostile to diverse political opinions for a long time. Note how one of the largest subs, r/Politics, remained open the whole time. They are, by every metric, very left wing.

Don’t let the silly culture war divide us on this one. We all think Reddit has jumped the shark.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You only think /politics is left wing because they banned all the left wingers.

Also, liberals aren't left wingers. Have you ever heard an anarchist or a socialist talk about a liberal?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What they did to The_Donald where Spez edited comments to make the sub seem to be inciting violence, so he had an excuse to ban it, is a prime example and should be a red flag regardless of someone's politics.

The banning from several subs automatically of people who joined joke subs like "ChurchofCovid" is also a prime example.

Very hostile to differing political opinions.

I don't think it's a social media site any more, I think it's a propaganda site and a data harvesting operation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I don't think it's a social media site any more, I think it's a propaganda site and a data harvesting operation.

I agree, but I also think that most social media has been propaganda and data harvesting all the way down from day one.

Like, the internet was not made by accident, or for no reason. It was developed at public universities with military funding.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

where Spez edited comments to make the sub seem to be inciting violence, so he had an excuse to ban it

Not what happened. Spez, fuckwit though he is, actually managed to do a halfway decent trolling there.

A bunch of t_d people were slagging him off and insulting him in their comments. Spez got drunk as shit one night and edited their comments, swapping his name with Trump's so that it made them look like a bunch of anti-trumpers. Much gnashing of teeth ensued.

Absolutely shouldn't have done it, especially as CEO of Reddit FFS, but definitely funny as shit.

Don't get me wrong, it's absolutely a mark against him, but he didn't get them banned. They thouroughly got themselves banned on their own.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think r/Politics is owned by admins so they were never going dark.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's all rather opaque, isn't it? I suspect you're correct, but if Reddit is actually paying for and controlling the moderation of /r/Politics, that raises a number of serious questions; both ethical and legal.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Legal issue? Nah not really. Ethical issue? Absolutely.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Also the people who say "well I'm not using third party apps so who cares anyway"

The thing they should care about is how reddit has handled this situation. Imagine what nonsense they'll come up with next if they're willing to turf away some of the oldest and most dedicated users

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I actually used the newer official desktop site, and really didn't mind it at all. What I minded was Reddit acting like their company was Reddit. No, you just provided the website and infrastructure. You were not Reddit. WE were Reddit. And we liked Reddit as it was, not what you are turning it into to make a quick buck on your IPO. We didn't appreciate providing ALL the value and then being treated as if we weren't important or to be listened to. I'm tired of good sites being whored out for mega-bucks and then transformed into another sub-par lowest common denominator that is a ghost of its former self. I'll skip the wait and pain of watching that happen yet again, and leave now.

So yeah, I wasn't a third party app user, but in the long run I'll still be effected by everything corporate management is doubling down on right now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You're completely right from a user's perspective. I think this post from Cory Doctorow helps explain what we're seeing. He doesn't talk about Reddit specifically, but it should be easy to infer the implications for Reddit from what he writes: https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here's the first paragraph from Cory's post:

"Here is how platforms die: first, they are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves. Then, they die." Reddit is in step 4.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, the "enshittification" concept, I've read this, and definitely agree.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly this. I've used RIF since forever, so RIF is Reddit for me. Even if they take it all back and everything goes back to normal, there's still a bad taste in my mouth. Reddit is clearly against the community, literally fighting it. Not even trying to find some sort of compromise or anything. So screw it, kbin seems pretty cozy so far, to be honest.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Honestly, even if they walk everything back, I still know they want to kill it eventually. Might as well already make my way over to other places like here, and stay with them.
I don't know, but I already think I like it here.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

JUST LIKE TWITTER! I love that the new internet comes in two flavors, "open source hippie (doesn't work well)" and "vaguely fascist (also doesn't work that well tbh)"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You made me chuckle.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (10 children)

How are y'all spreading yourself out in the fediverse so far? Right now I'm just browsing the front page of kbin and occasionally check in on my feed in mastodon, but I'm yet to find my "niche" communities.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I started on Mastodon and switched to Calckey, picked up Pixelfed and was hanging out for a few months. Saw Rexxit was going to happen and hopped on here about a month ago. So I guess I'm not your typical migrant.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

We need to get /r/askhistorians onboard lmao. After that everything else will fall into place

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I've made accounts on lemmy.ml, lemmy.ca, requested beehaw.org, and here, but probably going to stick with here for UI reasons plus I like the microblogs for things that don't exactly warrant a post. The Mastodon integration is neat, but I doubt I'll really use it since I never used Mastodon before.

Probably going to stick around here and Tildes (though that's not the fediverse). Subscribed to a bunch of communities in the various lemmy instances before federation was took down for a bit, so hopefully one niche community grows there. Made one of my own for a relatively niche game I play (it's a decently popular game, but it's definitely niche).

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Making accounts all over the place and talking to myself, shouting into the void like I did in social media from like 1996-2010

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it'll take a little while but we'll find our niches. I'm finding a few magazines on kbin.social to be really active in and I also got on mastodon.social. I don't think the latter is for me. I need to figure out a little better how federation works then I'm gonna explore more.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I'm struggling to find content. I saw some news about a sports team I follow, Xbox game, or show I'm watching- I would typically go to reddit, easily find a sub, and all of the content and comments I want. Now when I look on kbin or lemmy or beehaw ( I don't even know the difference), I could be in an instance? where there is isn't Xbox content but maybe another instance has tons of content. It's a bit confusing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah that’s definitely a challenge. I wish I had an answer for you but I’m still figuring it out myself.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Like another user mentioned- content across the fediverse isn't federating with kbin.social except in a very limited capacity. This is temporary.

https://fedia.io/ is another instance of kbin which has a much smaller local population but is federating much more than kbin.social at the moment. You can see posts from lemmy on the front page.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

part of the issue is that kbin has been hit by so much traffic that they've activated cloud flare to protect it, which I understand is causing content from other parts of the fediverse to not come in at times. There may be more content here than you are able to access at this exact moment due to the technical issues of growing several orders of magnitude in size.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I haven't been reading these messages for the blocked communities. Maybe I should have been.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

How long before there are calls for spez to resign? There's no way other people at Reddit are happy with how he's handled this. The product has been gutted, it's probably worth a fraction of what it could have been. What next?

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