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We kind of deserve it (startrek.website)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Edit: Meme has been slightly altered to be more accurate. Credit to @ininewcrow for the updated and better image.

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[–] [email protected] 110 points 1 year ago (8 children)

It should say "Whiteskins" instead

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (5 children)

"Paleface" .... and show a picture of a buck toothed yokel

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (20 children)

This meme always bugged me because it's not an equivalent portrayal of what the actual real life team mascot displays (or had displayed for several decades .... but continues to display in many other leagues and communities and schools)

As an Indigenous person ... this is what Native mascot logos look like to me.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I want that tshirt so much!

I'm as white as the driven snow and English by the way.

"Some folk'll never lose a toe, but then again some folk'll. Like Cleetus, the pale faced yokel.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

This guy seems a little more considerate than those he is mocking lol

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I don't know, that's awfully PC. Shouldn't it say "Whiteys" or similar?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Its pointing out that "redskins" is offensive, but not being offensive to do it.

You could say being formal is itself another joke on top of the contrast, as "indigenous" or "first peoples" would be an equally stupid football team name as "Caucasians."

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

He wants to parody the thing, not get murdered by a random hillbilly...

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Caucasians football is sponsored by mayonnaise and friendly interactions with law enforcement.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

lol ... I'm Ojibway-Cree from northern Ontario in Canada ... born and bred Indigenous and speak my own language

My family friends and I had a hell of laugh a few years ago when Heinz announced it's new mayonnaise sauce - Mayochup ... some weird combination of mayonnaise and ketchup

In English it sounds like nothing ... but in Cree, Ojibway and Ojibway-Cree ... it translates as 'shit face' ...

  • May-yeh -- translates as 'shit' or 'feces'
  • the ending 'chup' ... is a descriptive ending you tack onto the end of a word to denote that it refers to a individuals face

Mayo-chup ... literally means 'shit face' in my language

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I'm a whiteskin and I'd wear it.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago

It would hit a little different if you wore it

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure if a white person wears it, it might be taken as a more white power thing than a mocking thing. I think it would be hilarious to wear, but I don't want to send the wrong message.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

This one is more clear about being a spoof:

EDIT: Some alternative takes:

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I insist on being referred to as whitey mcwhitey face

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Not my first choice of a shirt, but I wouldn't mind wearing it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I think the team ought to keep the redskins name, but switch their mascot and logos to a bag of potatoes.

Also, love the shirt, although I think "white devils" or "invaders" would be a better insulting team name.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Every third or fourth catholic school has a team named "crusaders" and I find that baffling.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

"Colonizers"

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (8 children)

The edit is significantly worse. Now it's tied to the Simpsons and feels forced. Paleskins would be better than Paleface and the aggressively generic looking white guy of the previous logo was better.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Plus, that character is obviously yellow.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why did this image get edited to a Simpsons character paleface instead of the original Caucasian?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (49 children)

I don't feel insulted at all. Sorry.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (18 children)

That is what we call Privilege.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

With a capital P? It’s a proper noun?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Shouldn't that be white skins?

Either way, fine with me. I think we shouldn't make small things big issues, we got much MUCH bigger fish to fry

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When did caucasian become synonym of white? The caucasus is a small area between russia and the middle east, I'm not caucasian

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[–] GTG3000 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The funniest part is that people from the caucasus are actually darker-skinned.

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