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Just watched the Boy Boy video on George Bush’s Masterclass, and they made me think about which U.S. President was actually worse.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Trump, hands down. Bush at least tried to be a president.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Bush was much worse in effect, because his administration was much more competent. Our most recent former President was a worse person and an awful President domestically, but was largely ineffective at actual bad governance.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Coming in hot. Didn’t he imprison Eugene Debbs?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

During the first red scare. Thanks.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This question is probably worth revisiting after 2024's election, since Trump may still have more mileage. A second term might be more dangerous than the first was. Assuming he doesn't win, then his legacy will mostly be all of the weird and slightly hard to measure changes to American culture, specifically conservative political culture.

He generally seems to have made more dangerous ideas popular but also to have made getting a governing coalition together to actually enact those ideas more difficult by eroding the Republican party. Bush's foreign policy decisions seem to have been far more dangerous so I think I'd vote for Bush being the worst as of right now.

That said, Trump still has a non-zero chance of bringing real American fascism into power so that would change things.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I assumed he wouldn't get in the first time. I really hope people don't make that mistake in 2024. Voter turnout should be through the roof - because if there's one thing the republicans hate more than the Democrats, it's a high turnout.

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