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[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh I didn’t realize felons in prison wielded so much power. This orange motherfucker is gonna rot.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I wish I shared your optimism.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If Trump goes free, let alone become president again, the rest of the world will lose all respect to the US and start finding alternatives that are more stable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

What respect? We wouldn't be surprised if you elected a dog as a president, you already had way worse.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 year ago

How would he have the power to do that in 2024? Even if he won the election, he wouldn't take office until 2025. What the fuck is this headline?

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Jee who else would really like for US to leave NATO I wonder

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago

Somebody must be Putin him up to it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

All of the tankies on lemmy πŸ€”πŸ€”πŸ€”

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is really Putins last chance for a victory over ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

Do not negotiate with fascists. The guy is going to move the goal posts ad infinitum.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

He’d first have to get elected President and then obtain a time machine to go back to 2024.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

"If"

It's cute that journalists think that Trump wouldn't pull out of NATO if other members of NATO met his demands.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Donald Trump is quite literally going to die in either state or Federal custody. His fate was sealed the moment he told the National Archives "No".

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

And when he told Saudi and Russian spies " Yes "

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

At a time where our allies are seriously considering getting along more with China and others, this is a terrible, terrible idea for U.S. foreign relations. People seem to think the U.S. can stand alone. Nope.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

It does explain why the EU doesn't want to outright shut the door on China. The U.S. right now is acting like a bipolar person off their meds. One term they're reasonable and rational, the next they're throwing shit at the wall and talking about leaving their allies out to dry.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nobody thinks the US can stand alone. Traitors want the US to fail.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

So they can try to take over, I suppose.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Could be a great opportunity to boost European defence.

Time to replace US military bases by European ones, and time for France to look more at east and for Poland to look more at south

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No country in Europe can agree, nor afford to do everything the US currently does across the globe and especially across Europe. It would be an actual shit show what you are saying you want to happen.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Has to happen at some point, though. Why not now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

True. But then we sink or swim.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Not while the EU isn't federated and a single fascist like Orban can blockade the capacity to act.

Also, it's too expensive. The US can afford it because they don't really pay for it: as the USD is the reserve currency of everyone else, and as oil is traded in USD, everyone pays for their military through inflation. The Euro isn't in the same position.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Bullshit clickbait. The orange fascist will go to jail and do nothing.