Just a sad freak accident here. Put away your {fuck cars, fuck cyclists} pitchforks.
this post was submitted on 26 Oct 2023
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I mean... I get a lot of the arguments from the fuck cars people? But like... Do they really think we shouldn't be transporting lumber anymore? No more wood?
Exactly, fuck cars isn't "fuck transportation vehicles". The things clogging the streets are personal vehicles, not buses and semi trucks (did I do American English correct here?) transporting stuff.
More or less yes you did American English correctly. More often I just refer to them as semis without adding the truck part, some also call them tractor trailers. It was clear what you meant though so only need to change it slightly if you are going for full American English
Was the lumber strapped down correctly? If not it’s Manslaughter.
No that's not the point. In countries like the Netherlands where proper bike infrastructure is in place, cyclists physically separated from car traffic. This type of "freak accident" would not happen if that were the case here.
No, they just believe the truck dropped the trunks on the bikers on purpose or something.
Unless the load was improperly secured, or the driver was not driving safely, which we don’t know yet.
Even if so, I'd not argue for a non-"truck centric" approach to moving dead trees.
The busses would have to have huuuge luggage racks.
More training or enforcement might be worthwhile - but some sort of medium scale free ranging bulk transport will likely always be an important part of tree logistics.
Final destination 2 did it first
That scene was terrifying, I'm still afraid of lumber trucks to this day.
While tragic, I don’t think this is fuckcars material. Truckers are professionals, doing a job that is far more inevitable than the more relevant problem, which is the overaccommodation of the use of personal automobiles by amateurs.
Ok, fuckcars, how do you suppose we get lumber out of the woods?
Push it downhill then float it down a river! Where those features are present.
It's less about how we move lumber and more highlighting the dangers of having cyclists share the road with giant trucks and cars. You wouldn't hear stories like this in countries like the Netherlands where they actually provide proper bike infrastructure that's separated from the road.