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[โ€“] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

this would work better I think. It's not as fancy, but it gives a better idea I think.

[โ€“] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For McLaren it says n=63, but pictured on the graphic is 85 pitstops, of which 22 are painted orange. 22/63 is the figure used for the percentage though.

[โ€“] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's mildly annoying that they didn't use the same number of pitstops for all four

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I assume they have done different amounts though, so how would you split it? I assume that the conditions at different races would effect the times.

[โ€“] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Couldn't help myself and quickly created another version in excel. It's not as fancy, but feel like it gives a better idea

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Looks so much better!

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think it would help to use to same grid for the squares for all teams. You'd need a grid of 5 by 14, leave the not performed squares black. In that way a higher colored stack means more quick pitstops, a higher stack of grey squares means a higher amount of performed stops overall.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I'd just take the last 50

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Anybody know what Merc are doing differently that is resulting in consistently slower stops? Has to be something fundamental with their approach.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

They like to play things safe. This served them well when they could rely on having the fastest car, but it's starting to hurt them now I feel.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When it comes to pitstops, there are two philosophies:

A. Do them as quick as possible. For that to work, you need your parts to be manifactured a certain way so everything can be done fast.

B. Do them as safe as possible. Thats what Merc are going for, and they have optimzed their processes and parts/Tools to do perfect pitstops that are not as quick.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The thing is, even Ferrari haven't fucked up hardly ever with their faster stops this season, its no longer that faster means mistakes are a regular occurrence.

We saw in 21 that the FIA introduced rule changes around pit stops to make them slower, and for a time this reduced the delta Merc had to the other teams but its grown again, partly as Merc seem to have gotten slower.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For a team that often exudes "we have our shit together", Merc pit stops are just not where most everyone else is. Wonder why?

[โ€“] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They donโ€™t care to try to be faster. Theyโ€™ve said theyโ€™d rather be a tiny bit slower than their competitors rather than just as fast and making mistakes.

Considering that most of the time RB doesnโ€™t make any more mistakes than them it might just be a BS excuse

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Interesting! Not doubting you, but if you have a source handy I'd love to see it. It sounds a little BS since again, RBR doesn't often make mistakes and does it faster

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apparently it comes from a James Vowels debrief after one of the 2022 races. I donโ€™t have a specific source since I canโ€™t go listen to audio right now.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Cool! I'll hunt a little. Be interested to see if he took that mentality to Williams

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Yikes Mercedes.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Tito isn't gonna like that