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Welcome to the discussion post for the 2023 British Grand Prix practice sessions.

Last weekend the race thread was created by one of our users and that went down really well, so I see no reason to not do that from now on.

Given the amount of comments during practice, we may as well keep them all together for now.

Please, if you don't see a post for Qualifying and the Race, feel free to make it. I'll keep an eye out and pin them if they're made. We're still working on bots!

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Thanks a lot. I think this is a good approach with a combined training and separate quali and race threads for now. And hopefully the community and the amount of comments per session keeps growing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah grouping practice together is fine. Quali and Race deserve a nice seperate discussion.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, last race the unified thread was hurting me. This is perfect.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What is going on with williams?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To quote the greatest video game ever made:

"High speed, low drag."

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I was bitterly disappointed that this video game did not show up as the top result and indeed at all when searched it alongside this quote then stupid me realised it wasn't from Starcraft😅

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

High-speed circuits suit them and apparently silverstone in particular

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Hopefully enough voodoo to see them in the points

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Take a look at tomorrow's weather for Silverstone... 😬

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What is it? Tomorrow is supposed to be dry in the Netherlands but I'm not sure what's on the other side of the canal.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

There is a chance of rain and thunderstorm throughout the day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

🍿🍿🍿

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Charles and not being able to run in a practice session. Name a more iconic duo. It's frustrating to see...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What's the reason for him not running? I just tuned in 5 minutes ago.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I don't know the specifics but they said he had an electrical issue.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

The FP2 highlights video called it "an electrical problem".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

@running_squirrel @itsmikeyd it’s getting painful to see

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Many cars all queued up right at the start, plenty of aero measuring devices attached.

Only thing that could be better was me actually being there!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is Silverstone a good track for GA? I'd love to go one day and wander around if there are a few places with decent views you can get to.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yes! I went years ago now and on Friday you could also sit in the grandstands.

Sadly there are fewer spots now to sit and watch the race for GA, so I'd recommend scouting where you'd like to watch the race from on Friday, and getting there very early doors on Sunday.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Both Williams faster than both Red Bulls

Williams dominance could bore fans

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm ready to be bored!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think they can improve a bit until tomorrow, but for now it looks light a nightmare weekend for Merc

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

last week was also a pretty horrible weekend for them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

This new baseline isn't too hot eh?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

What the heck is going on with them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

How do the mercs do in the wet? I wonder if they’d be better off compared to the rest of the field, especially in sector 3, if it’s a wet quali.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

My predictions for the race:

1.VER 2. RUS 3. HAM

Good performance: Piastri in the points

Bad performance: Stroll out of the points

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Piastri is having a decent season, don't you think? He's limited by the McLaren being a bad car, but he's not a million miles from Norris in the same car. Hopefully people are noticing that and he can move on in a few years.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah, there's clearly potential there.

He's avoided the constant errors that you often see from rookie or 2nd season drivers (Yuki, Mick Schu and de Vries being the recent examples). Think he's only had one (?) major crash this season which was in the wet in Canada.

From what we've seen in F1 so far he deserves a shot in a faster car one day.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think we can all agree that Max is going to be P1 if there is no crash or technical failure. Sorry, but P2 and P3 seems a bit like through the lens of a Merc or UK fan.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it was a bit bold. In the predictor that I do I went Ver, Per, Ham.

It was expected that Mercedes would be better this weekend due to the high speed nature of the track. I still think Russell will be around 3/4/5.

Where Perez finishes mainly depends on his qualifying. He can relax a bit and accept qualifying 2/3/4 or push like crazy for pole with the massive risk of being out in q2.

Would like to see the long run pace analysis.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

The Mercs will struggle to get through Q2. They looked awful on every lap, both long and qualy runs.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

DeBris for De Vries.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Ferrari, Williams and Jordan in the top 3? What is this, 1997? 😄

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So I get that more durable tires are bad for performance, but why are they getting worse long before tirewear should cause that?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm not sure of the context of the question, but on a green track like Silverstone currently is, the lack of grip can cause the wheels to slip which generates surface temperature which can cause the tyre to overheat and thus be at a suboptimal temperature and pressure, meaning reduced grip.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Context is that drivers are reporting that the track doesn't seem to be rubbering in like they're expecting with the changes that supposed to have happend to the tires during fp1 now. Maybe it's just a matter of not being rubbered in enough, I guess?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What changes are these? I wasn't aware there was a change to the tyre compound?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

See https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.pirelli-set-to-introduce-new-slick-tyre-spec-at-silverstone.UxGxS3zoIJvaEdVCjEOs3.html

They introduced a new compound for slicks that was originally planned for next year. The cornering speeds this year are faster than their projections so they brought it forward.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I completely missed that, thanks for sharing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Only heard it from the commenters and as I'm only having it on in the background while I'm working, I could be very wrong.

But I understood that they're making the tires more rigid so that they're more durable because they expect Silverstone to put a lot of stress on the tires. I first thought it was specifically for the tire test, but I seemed to have understood that this was why drivers were complaining about grip.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why is it green? Has there not been enough racing prior to this f1 race to bring it in? Or is it the weather that's washing it clean?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They're the general reasons for a green track, so probably a combination of the two.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That slo-mo shot of the McLaren tire change was majestic.

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