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It's really great for someone who doesn't know how to use debain itself and their community are super friendly so do you think it's worth it's legacy

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's great if you are experienced with Linux & its tools as it has a one stop suite for most things I'd give myself messing with at some point.

I could write out an entire review, but long story short as a former distrohopper of at least 60, this is my second favorite "I need a good desktop" distro.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My dude, you can't just drop a comment like this and then leave us hanging on what your first favourite is.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fair enough lol, my number 1 is Linux Mint (Ubuntu) because compared to all of the other distros I've tried, it ACTUALLY "just worked".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well, what is your favourite then?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

It may be a good distro if someone doesn't have time to configure debian.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

for someone who doesn't know how to use debain itself

Huh? What special knowledge does using Debian require and what does MX do differently?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

it's basically Debain but more user friendly and it's suitable for new Linux users

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah but how? What is Debian lacking in user-friendliness that MX is making up for?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yea, I'd like to know as well. I've used both Debian and MX. Other than the control panel thing MX has I can't really think of any discernible differences.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m drawing a blank on it… makes me think of MK Linux, AKA MicroKernel Linux from the 90s, but I’m pretty sure they’re not related if this is Debian-based.

How can someone not know how to use Debian though? It was a pain when 1.0 was released, but these days installs just as easily as Mint….

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Debian is far from difficult but it is certainly not as easy and beginner friendly to install as Ubuntu, Fedora, or Mint or any other mainstream distro (unless I’m using the wrong iso or something). Debian is a great intermediate distro, but I can’t feel comfortable recommending it to newbies until there is a proper beginner friendly guided install process.

I understand and respect the choice of some distros to not go the guided installer route and go with approaches that are more traditional, flexible, and better suited for more advanced users. And I don’t want to see these options go away. But I don’t recommend these distros to beginners unless they express interest in learning/DIY

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

https://mxlinux.org/wiki/system/systemd/

I'm pro-systemd so that's an immediate pass from me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would that make it a pass? Did you read the whole thing? It includes SystemD by default and an option to easily switch to it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I admittedly missed the last part way down at the bottom about systemd-sysv. I suppose that's more acceptable... but still you're going to be using a minority distro with a minority configuration ... that rarely ends well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All it does is symlink init to systemd. That is very unlikely to ever cause a problem. It will function the same as using SystemD by default. This distro has been around and working well for quite a long time now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

... and I'm sure it still has a fraction of the users of more mainstream distros and a fraction of those people actually using the systemd init system.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

A fraction, but still not an insignificant amount. Either way, all it does it change /sbin/init to be a symlink to systemd. That's the same exact thing distros using systemd by default do.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

how can someone be pro systemd lol. it's been one of the cancers' of the Linux desktop for years

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It really hasn't. Some people freaked out about it for weak reasons, similar to people freaking out about Wayland.

It's made working across distros so much nicer. The fundamental service management, logging, etc is all just a bunch of common tools and patterns.

Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu, OpenSUSE, Majaro, etc didn't switch to it because "it's one of the cancer's of the Linux desktop for years."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Besides the Unix philosophy what problems do you have with systemd?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

do you think it’s worth it’s legacy

It depends on what you want to achieve. MX Linux is one of the less annoying Linux distributions (although I'm more into Void and Slackware, to be honest), but in terms of privacy (which is the very topic of this Lemmy community), it doesn't do much better or worse than most other Linux distributions.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I've been using it as a daily driver for months now. It comes with many nice features, it's easy to use and mess around with.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The theming is stunning

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Been using it on all 3 of my machines for the last few months. I used to always end up back on Mint but about a year ago that started crapping out on things. MX just works for me. One thing about all distros (that I've tried anyway) lately, is that they don't see the wifi card in my small Beelink PC. So it's plugged in. Windows did see it, but I wiped that and installed Linux not long after I bought it. Had a couple of issues with KDE and it wouldn't wake from sleep so back to XFCE. Not too heavily customised but it seems to be a keeper for my main machine - the Beelink. I have a Lenovo Ideapad that currently has Manjaro on - might try vanilla Debian on that. The other machine is an ancient HP laptop - MX XFCE will be staying on that until it craps out for good.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks i hope you loved like me as well

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Works great for me. I'm running mx23 after running mx19 for a few years.

I hope mx23 is better with updates, or making easier to update, as updates broke in mx19 not long after I first installed it. My only complaint. Otherwise great.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Debian is super easy to use, plus we have AI now at our fingertips which makes it even easier.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Will its really good but isn't Linux mint de and especially MX is better than Debain for A few tools but i agree that they're better than official Ubuntu and easier than vanilla arch

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

been using it since the pandemic and it is all good. i started with xubuntu but had problems with R after an LTS update (in 2020 i think). looked for an easy to install xfce alternative - tried mx linux and havent had a problem since.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If it works for you go for it. I don’t hear much about it, and haven’t encountered anyone using it. I know it is one of few Debian based distros that is based on Debian itself and not Ubuntu, that is about all I know about it.

What attracts you to it? What are its selling points and what makes it different from Debian? Do you know anything about the developers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its tools is perfect and its easier than Debain plus its great to use without system d for some people who hates using the new unit system

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"New"... anyway, there is a whole bunch of operating systems without systemd. Why Linux?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah the fact that OP calls systemd “new” or even knows what systemd is makes me doubt the authenticity of the original post (or more likely I just misinterpreted the top post).

I read it as an excited new Linux user who “Doesn’t know how to use Debian” and is enthusiastic about MX Linux. But there is no way in hell someone who doesn’t know how to use Debian would have a preference for alternative unit systems and definitely wouldn’t be calling systemd new

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe they don't know how to use debian, because it uses systemd?

(Insert SpongeBob meme here:
"I like mx Linux"
"What does that mean?"
"It means he's afraid of systemd"
"No it doesn't"
"systemctl restart sshd journalctl"
"Stop it, you're scaring him")