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I’m currently testing Fedora KDE on a VM (windows host) before eventually switching over to Linux completely.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 11 months ago (12 children)

Plasma definitely. Xfce is second.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Gnome. Feels most polished and least cluttered to me.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Seconded. I used to use Ubuntu, but i switched to Debian + GNOME and I love it.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Plasma. It’s the most customizable and you can dive in and shape it. It feels much more natural for me to jump into.

I put xfce on older hardware.

Distro wise I tend to go with Ubuntu flavors most because they seem to have better compatibility for various software and stuff I need, but I haven’t really shopped around too hard in years. Work is RHEL (and clones) and they make me sad.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago

KDE is what finally got me to switch from Windows.

Out of the box I found it a better user experience than Windows 10s desktop, but having it be stupid easy to customize and theme on top of that has made me never wanna go back.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

KDE for me. As much as I hate windows, I like the floating windows, task bar and tray. KDE has that out of the box and lets me tweak all the little annoyances away.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Of all the things I hate about Microsoft Windows, the GUI design is not one of them. The content of those windows is janky as all hell. But the floating windows, taskbar, and tray? Those are all great.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

Xfce. It's lightweight and looks great with a little bit of customisation. For me it's the perfect balance between performance, usability and looks

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

XFCE. It's just so easy to click and drag things where I want them and edit icons to be uniform.

Have you tried testing out DE in a virtual machine? It's a big time saver versus installing it on actual hardware.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (5 children)

I'm doing all my testing on a VM before committing and doing a bare metal install

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

KDE. I tried gnome, xfce etc. but theyre either stripped down (xfce) or designed in a way that bothers me. (gnome)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sway is a WM not a DE. So you create your own DE? Or, I see Regolith is integrating sway, I think with Gnome Flashback as with i3. Not sure if there are others.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah, I thought about not responding on the basis that Sway wasn't a DE, but someone else responded CWM, so I figured at least if I bucked the system, I wouldn't be alone in it.

Plus, not everyone really knows the difference between a DE and a WM. And not everyone knows that a lot of people don't use a DE. So, often times, people use "DE" and "WM" synonymously, not really knowing there's a difference.

(Not saying that describes OP or anyone here in particular. But there was definitely a time when that described me. And I wouldn't be surprised if that described some folks who were browsing this thread.)

Oh, but to answer your question directly, no I don't use anything that could be considered a DE. I use "dmenu_run" from Suckless to launch applications. That's about the only thing I "add" to Sway in my setup.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I didn't realise that people use them interchangeably. I've got an idea on what a WM is and what a DE is but nothing super in depth.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

No DE. Just openbox + polybar + rofi

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

KDE Plasma. Number 2 is Cinnamon

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

KDE and Cinnamon.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I have to say KDE Plasma, but I look really forward toward Cosmic Rust.

KDE is simply so damn old and has weird quirks everywhere, it has features and basic things like

  • functional apps: dolphin, spectacle, kate, kde connect, systemsettings, discover, ...
  • SSD with hitboxes in the very corner (looking at you GNOME)
  • wayland support
  • a regular but modular bottom panel
  • extensible everywhere

But it also just has too many features. Extensions are not tested or versioned so many simply dont work anymore, often some of the dozens of components has an issue. I cant imagine Cosmic reaching the level of features in like 3 years, but if it would do, this could be great. But in the end its up to the devs, so I have no idea at all.

I dont find GNOME usable really. At least in the default settings. The decorations make no sense on Desktops (they are perfect for tablets), the top bar makes you look down too much, the ubuntu way wastes space too. Everything is too thick, too little GUI settings and the standard apps could be from Android, the little features they have.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Plasma 6 is coming out soon. Not sure if it addressed any of your issues though.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

xfce. For me, it strikes that perfect balance between lightweight and featureful, looks good but not too fancy, is customizable and usable. I set it up the way I like it and it never changes on me.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

KDE, I've been using it since the late 90s. I've tried other DEs but nothing comes close IMO.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Honestly, this is the first I've heard of Hyprland, but it looks sick.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Kde Plasma. Customized so there are no visible panels, only an auto-hide panel at the top for wifi/bluetooth etc. I do app switching and opening new apps via the Overview effect.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Plasma, but only on Wayland (which is better anyway unbiased opinion).

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

I like Xfce and Plasma, it's pretty hard to decide between the two

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

I really like plain "boring" vanilla Gnome. It's straightforward, I like it's workflow, it does everything I need it too, and looks nice too. I'm not a fan of "power user" UIs as I feel like they have too many features I'll never use filling them up. You can always get more programs to do more things anyway. Like I use compilers and disassemblers all the time, but I'm not upset that Gnome doesn't ship with those features built in when I'm in some weird 1% of users that need them. On the other hand, I think KDE is important to the ecosystem too, and I donate $100 a year to both the Gnome and KDE projects.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Gnome on laptop, gnome with extentions on one pc and kde on another.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

I love cinnamon a lot

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

My university Linux cluster was my first introduction to Linux in general, and they ran MATE of all things.

A few years later, when I decided I was done with Window's bullshit and wanted to jump my daily driver to Linux, I installed Ubuntu MATE so I'd have the best familiarity edge I could to minimize friction.

MATE is alright. Despite being rather barebones and dated (being a life support fork of GNOME 2, I understand that is indeed kind of the point), it served me well for about 5 years.

I got a real urge to switch, though, due to just how little support or documentation there is for anything in MATE. I was also getting fed up with Ubuntu's Snap crap as well. So I decided to dump both for something else.

I wanted to stay on Debian's architecture for now, but no longer had need for Ubuntu's handholding, so raw Debian it was. As for the DE, I personally like the rich, full-fat ones more than the lean ones, and I wanted something modern, popular, and with highly proliferous support resources. That basically meant GNOME 3 or KDE Plasma. And I guess maybe Cinnamon, but I always see it marketed as the "newly ex-Windows user training wheels" DE, and that isn't my need.

GNOME 3 strikes me as the "MacOS" of Linux DEs. It wants to swim against the current to introduce its own paradigm. Everything designed to work in its ecosystem is buttery smooth and sexy, yes, but since it's also a counterparadigm, that tends to relegate you to the pack-in software and a handful of big vendors. Most other software has to rely on clumsy shims to fit in. I'm not about it, tbh. I'm sure it's fine, I just don't think higher highs are worth the lower lows, and I generally wasn't in the mood for a drastic paradigm shift.

So, KDE Plasma for me. It was unfortunate I made the leap just as they decided, "Wayland is stable and supported enough for everyone now!" (it isn't, lol), so it's a bit rockier than I was hoping, but whatever. Stability and support can only improve with time. And I expect faster adoption of Wayland than I do the GNOME 3 paradigm since Wayland is currently the only ship of its kind in the water that isn't sinking.

Aaaaall that said, KDE treats me pretty well, minus the Wayland issues. Upgrading to it from MATE was like trading up from a cheap, dingy hostel to a clean 4-star hotel. Should've leapt years ago.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Cinnamon! Although I want to give KDE another chance to become my default DE.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Cinnamon LMDE

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

I'm running Plasma with Arch, but I like Gnome to, it's simple and easier to use, but I also think that plasma is more customizable.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

I would say try Gnome. If you don't like it, use KDE. Those are the 2 big ones right now so they'll be the most reliable. Gnome is either love it or hate it, KDE is very vanilla. I personally use Gnome, because I love the workflow.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

I LOVE KDE. Seriously. But there is no proper Sliding TWM for it at the moment and it's soooooo good having a proper one. I tried Karousel but it was too glitchy, especially when streaming. Thus, I am on Gnome with PaperWM. A simply phenomenal experience! :)

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Cinnamon. It just works and I can make it look how I like. i3 on laptops, because hackor.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I love KDE Plasma, been using it for years. Cinnamon is very good too, especially for folks that like the Windows 7 style.

Cosmic is nice from the little I've used it, but I prefer a DE with more options.

Not a Gnome fan personally, I've tried it many times, just can't get into it, but objectively it's solid.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Well for DE its KDE for me but in general DWM

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

That I use? Cinnamon, because lazy. That I prefer? Fluxbox, because fast af.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I use Debian with XFCE.Really lightweight and stable

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

I bounce between Xfce and Plasma. I used Xfce for... I don't know, 15 years? And only switched to plasma for a while because of getting a hidpi laptop before Xfce had support for it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago
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