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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Why does the thumbnail for this article appear nowhere on the page? Here it is.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My guess is that either the image was there and was edited out, or there is a metadata tag on the post that lists that as the thumbnail, but the page isn't otherwise using it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The tag is where I got it.

<meta property="og:image" content="https://cdn.neowin.com/news/images/uploaded/2023/06/1686566370_microsoft_shaq_meme_story.jpg" />
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Why are we trusting Microsoft for anything privacy related? Lol

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Was "staying away from Edge" not already standard?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

It is for me

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You need to stay away from Microsoft. Period. https://youtu.be/MMc5zgALLiY

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I posted on /r/bing a few days how now you can't turn off tracking or history in edge but can't find the article and don't want to give reddit any traffic to check...

Stick to firefox.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fr, firefox with extensions on pc. And Kiwi browser with extensions on phone.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

why not firefox on mobile?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was confused by this too, since Firefox on mobile has extension support

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yep, and there are Beta or Nightly for people who also want about:config, or Fennec for people who want all that on a stable release

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Why not Mull on mobile?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I mean I'm not surprised it's.... It's Microsoft.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ridiculous.
Also, probably shouldn't use Edge in general. I only use it at work, since it's mandated.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You'd think that more corporations would be worried about corporate espionage through web browsers, email clients, etc. all being created by one company with a history of bad privacy practices.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Corporations don’t want to ditch their IE only intranets - they don’t have a choice but to use Edge for IE Mode now that IE is retired.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Edge is just an edgy meme at this point

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I always use a combination of LibreWolf or Ungoogled Chromium for websites that don't work in LW, but my work insists we use and recommend Edge, their reason being that if a user has trouble in Edge we should know how to fix it, especially as it's the browser we should be recommending.

Good to know I need to be especially careful of what I view on Edge now though.. Yikes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

As long as that feature can be disabled, which also clearly states that it sends stuff to Microsoft, I don’t see the big problem. It shouldn’t come as a surprise that there are many features enabled by default of dubious privacy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Edge isn't that bad of a browser. I don't appreciate the hate people sling at it without even trying it. It's seriously becoming a better browser than Firefox.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I'm one of those people. I hate Edge. Like, with a disproportionate amount of vitriol.

But it actually doesn't have anything to do with its functionality (though I'm not thrilled with the privacy concern OP linked), but rather the fact that I get bombarded with "IT'S BETTER IN EDGE! MAKE EDGE YOUR DEFAULT BROWSER! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!." It's the most asinine, annoying bullshit.

In all fairness, I did finally figure out how to make it stop. It's just ridiculous that I have to go through all of that every time I'm on a new PC. Let me browse the way I want to, damnit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Like someone has said, we're in a privacy-oriented sub so it's natural (expected even) to expect the hate. Edge/MS really is bad in terms of privacy. So I get the hate.

With that said, privacy concerns aside, I have to agree that its reputation is worse than it really is. I was pleasantly surprised when I tried it, but my standard was IE so it wasn't really saying much lol. It's getting bad with unnecessary features, though.

As for being better than FF... well, of course in terms of privacy FF is still better imho. However, I rely on chromium-based browsers for work. Some internal sites I use for work simply don't play well with FF. I do have Brave, but I sometimes use Edge as well.

Is there a good chromium browser anyone can recommend? Is Brave the best privacy-wise? Vivaldi?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hmm, I don’t know… Leaving privacy aside (we are on /c/privacyguides mind you) it’s not that bad but it has become so incredibly bloated with features that I almost feel overwhelmed especially coming from stock Chrome or Firefox. Might just be me tho

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I thought I wasn't the only one. Came from Chrome and Firefox, MS Edge seems overstuffed with news grids/headlines, Bing sidebar, MS "apps" etc. It is soooo unnecessary.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I was using Edge before I started caring about my privacy. It's literally the fastest chromium browser and has a bunch of cool features. But as @CheshireSnake said, privacy wise Edge isn't an option.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been using it a bit since Bing chat came out (even though Edge on Linux should probably be like a crime) and it's pretty good. But this is a legitimate privacy concern that's deserving of hate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The concern about privacy is definitely valid, but I'm not as worried about that stuff as I care more that it works than anything else.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

You're on privacy guide, so I think it's natural that people would be worried about privacy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

What do you expect from Microsoft, really?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

~~i hate to be that guy but~~ linux is worth the switch

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My god! Being based on chromium and developed by Microsoft were already 2 reasons to stay away. Why would they feel the need to send viewed images back to Microsoft?

I wonder if this includes private images from iCloud/google photos.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

you might want to actually read the article

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've only ever used edge to download another browser or when on a clients server. Edge works ok, but I would never use it as my daily browser.

I've lost count of how many times i've clicked 'continue without my data', just open the damn browser please.