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A lot of people dislike it for the privacy nightmare that it is and feel the threat of an EEE attack. This will also probably not be the last time that a big corporation will insert itself in the Fediverse.

However, people also say that it will help get ActivityPub and the Fediverse go more mainstream and say that corporations don't have that much influence on the Fediverse since people are in control of their own servers.

What a lot of posts have in common is that they want some kind of action to be taken, whether it'd be mass defederating from Threads, or accept them in some way that does not harm the Fediverse as much.

What actions can we take to deal with Threads?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's worse off if we don't federate with them. That way they get their walled garden and people don't bother to use mastodon as it's incompatible. Federation gives everyone choices.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Large numbers is not the same as quality content. I submit as my evidence ... well ... Facebook. And Twitter. And pretty much every corporate "the numbers go up!"-based social media site.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

What worries me most is how this has shown me how how wildly insecurely ActivityPub seems to be storing and sharing user data.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

I welcome the extra content and massive expansion of the fediverse! Having millions of users has its advantages. Smaller communities will still exist.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lmao do people want ActivityPub to be relevant or not? Defederating yourselves from millions of users is idiotic.

I was looking forward to being able to use a mastodon to interact with people on Threads but apparently that's the worst thing ever for you guys? What?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I was looking forward to being able to use a mastodon to interact with people on Threads but apparently that's the worst thing ever for you guys? What?

Why not just go join Instagram or Facebook if you want that?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

What? Meta won't control moderation on Mastodon.social just because they can communicate with each other. I want to be able to call politicians twats and "cunts" without fearing a banhammer. That's what it boils down to really.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

What? Meta won't control moderation on Mastodon.social just because they can communicate with each other. I want to be able to call politicians twats and "cunts" without fearing a banhammer. That's what it boils down to really.

Then they will either threaten to defederate with that instance unless they impose the same rules they have or tell that instances moderates to punish you. Once the instances become intertwined enough, their rules become ours rules or they'll threaten to defederate essentially kill that smaller instance.

There simply isn't a world where Meta allows Threads users to see content that they don't want them to see on their platform. I'm sure part of the reason they haven't federated yet is so they can figure out a way to hide shit from other instance on their own instance.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 years ago

I thought Threads joining the fediverse was a GOOD thing, and even the Mastodon Org seems cool with this. More users = better.

Wanting to block Threads does nothing to Meta, and only hurts users. It would be like blocking all email from Gmail because you know they read your messages to generate targeted ads. You wouldn't be teaching Google a lesson, just hindering interoperability between people.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 years ago (7 children)

The EEE argument is a red herring at the moment. Sure, in the future, Meta and others could get clever in ways we can't imagine right now, but currently it's a "sky is falling" kind of threat. As it currently stands, the path from Threads launching to "Meta killing the fediverse" has all the logical progression as the Underpants Gnomes.

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 years ago

I dint understand anything you guys are talking about here. Fediverse? Are we ralking about the collection of sublemmys?

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