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[–] [email protected] 69 points 11 months ago (9 children)

I always remember that port and left both are the shorter word, and have the same number of letters.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Do we have any red port wine left?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

There's only a right way to find out

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Honestly, yeah. That's what I relied on as well and what was taught to me. Also what I then taught to the people under me. I have no other real way of understanding it. I know why we use port/starboard but I've never looked into why port/starboard are the words we've stuck with.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

That's easy. We use 'port' because that's the left side, and 'starboard' because that's the other side of the boat.

No, no. No need to thank me. I'm just one humble man trading information gleaned from a long life of learning.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My grandfather was a bomber pilot and he always remembered it by picturing himself flying north along the east coast, where all the ports would be on the left.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Did he never have to fly back?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (8 children)

That's essentially how I always remember it. Port and left both have 4 letters.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Also, the old name for "port" is "larboard", which starts with an L for left.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Additionally, "starboard" has 'r's (for "right").

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

yes for "right, then (slaps knees), let's turn left"

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

and even, as in even numbers.

Port, left, even...all words an even number of letters Starboard, right, odd...all words are an odd number of letters.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Port is short. My BIL taught me that this summer!

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I always picture a drunken sailor asking how much port is left. It works for me.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

Okay that's infuriatingly clever... I'm going to have to use that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

And port is red. Green means you're on Starboard and GET THE HELL OUT OF MY WAY!!

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Is there a reason they don't just say left and right?

[–] [email protected] 56 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (9 children)

Left and Right rely on the orientation of the person. So if I'm looking ahead at you, and you're looking at me, my left is different than yours. However, port and starboard don't change based on position of the viewer but the position of the vessel. Cuts out any ambiguity.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

Like driver's side and passenger side on a car. It doesn't even matter where it was made and it will work out as long as they look for the steering wheel.

*Except the McLaren F1 and probably a few others.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Left and right are referenced to yourself, or relative. Port and starboard are referenced to the ship, or absolute.
It's the same reason people who work in theater say "stage right" and "stage left" instead of just "right" and "left."
Imagine being on a boat for weeks, in the middle of the ocean, with no land in sight; it makes a lot of sense that you would think of locations in terms of the ship, as that is your only reference point.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Nice added touch about the stage directions!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

Historically, boats had rudders (or “steer boards”) along the side of the ship instead of in the middle like we’d see them today. It was always on the right side of the boat, so to avoid smashing your rudder into the dock, you’d dock your ship on the other side. That means it was always the left side that literally faced the port, while starboard faced out into open water to protect that side from damage.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

TIL about steer boards, thanks!

medieval ships, lots of which have steer boards

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

rudders (or “steer boards”)

The "board" part comes from "side of a ship", as in "the board where the steer is attached".

Same meaning as in "going over-board".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Steer board => star board?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Then you have to say something like "your left or mine?" This removes any ambiguity, and that might matter when one is at sea.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Also, port is red and Starboard is green. Usually boats will colour the sheets to match. It helps to identify the lines when someone tells you to ease the port sheet.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I remember being young taking my boaters safety course and having to take this section over three times. Why does left and right stop existing once you are on a floating pos?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Because left and right can be interpreted as direction from your point of view. Port and starboard are always understood as left and right of the vessel you are currently in.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

In performance arts, stage left and stage right perform the same function as well. "Stage" directions are always from the perspective of a performer, so that referring to right/left is absolute.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I need something like this to remember left and right correctly.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Port and left have four letters.

Mars also has 4 letters, which is useful when you're trying to remember which portal to travel through at the end of the Vault of Glass raid.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Your pointer finger and thumb make an L on your left hand.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is the joke here that it would be embarrassing for the captain to forget this?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"Red right returning". You must be leaving port.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

But the red on your boat is always port.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

Nah, but we did live on an island where sailing and fishing is very important. Our boat was trash but we did have a boat.

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