What a shit site - on mobile network and the spyware won’t let you vote claiming you’re on VPN
this post was submitted on 28 Sep 2023
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What's a good alternative?
Didn’t mean to say there was something better, just a note of the enshitification of such sites
of course, it is the best Lemmy client on Android atm and this is the first Lemmy client with widget support. wow!!
No, but only because when I try to it gives me a blank screen and no option to actually make the payment. Once that's been fixed I'll definitely pay like I did for Boost for Reddit!
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Instead of giving you another downvote, I'll give you a reply. I think you're asking a legitimate question and your statement is a valid stance. Up front: I use boost and have paid to remove the ads.
Why would people want to use Lemmy, but in a way that has ads?
I have a hard time wrapping my head around that, too. But, I have met people who don't mind ads who loosely fall into three categories:
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A lot of people grew up with everything being ad-infested and are simply not aware of options that are ad-free or to remove ads. They can't grasp the idea to pay money to remove ads, because they don't value an ad-free experience enough to justify such an investment. After all, ads are everywhere and "always have been". Even if you tell them about things like adblock, they'll usually not look into it and forget about it, because they do not care! Such people are usually not aware of things like ads as an attack vector.
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Some people have an internal filter: Their minds are so trained to finding the actual content on the web, in news articles, apps, ... that they subconciously just skip all the ads. I once asked a colleague how he can tolerate so many ads, while skimming over an article. His reply: "There were ads?". I met such people once or twice more.
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Some people are aware of risks and technical problems of ads, and know about things like adblock, but deliberstely choose not to disable ads out of conviction. The thought process isn't even that hard to grasp: People need money, I just consumed something that somebody invested time into and they get the money from ad providers so I don't have to pay. Suppressing the ads is effectively theft.
I don't get why people want an app for every website, just use the website
Lot's of websites are really clunky on mobile. Most websites transfer north of ten times the data of the content you actually want to see (ads, JS frameworks, header, footer, ...). Apps often offer a smoother experience for the same content on mobile. Also, people have been trained to expect/want an app for every site. I find it especially egregious when I see developers having multiple proprietary "authenticaor apps" (Microsoft, Sophos, ...), and I'm like: You know those are all just TOTP clients and you could just use one open source app for all of that (FreeOTP for example). Those do not replace websites, though.
My personal stance (everything before this was just observation): First of all: I do not see ads. I either pay to not see them or block them. I use as much open source software as I can. But, I acknowledge that sometimes there are proprietary solutions which are simply better then the open source counterparts, or, open source solutions which generate income via paid for "premium features". I'm willing to pay if the other side seems to have tolerable business practices and I think my benefit is worth it. Software I pay/paid for: JetBrains all products pack, Bitwarden, Simple * apps for android (for example Simple Gallery), Boost for reddit, Boost for lemmy. The list is incomplete, but you should get the idea.
Great explanation!
But some developers have gone off the deep end with the prices they’re charging for “pro” modes. Take Bean for example that wants $2/mo or $15/year subscription for Multiple Accounts, Themes, and Grouped communities; all of which will have no ongoing cost beyond possible API changes.
People need to tuck off with everything being a subscription these days
Apps have their uses, but yeah for me any ads at all = too many. I use RedReader for reddit and now Thunder for lemmy, I have Iceraven with uBO for browsing and I have a DNS-based blocker too, for non-browser ads.
I'm one of the few that uses foss for everything I can and also gives back to devs, either through contributions and bug reports or monthly monetary donations. Advertising as a funding source is so 'ew' to me.
I've been using Liftoff, which has none of that nonsense. Ads on Lemmy, no thanks. Why pay for it if free alternatives exist.
Ads on Lemmy, no thanks.
The paid version of Boost is ad-free.
Why pay for it if free alternatives exist.
Because people think the paid alternative is better and worth its money? This is so blatantly obvious, that you do not appear to try and engage in a good faith conversation.
Yeah, I said the same thing in another post. They’re downvoting me as well. It seems these kids love burning money on things other people get for free.
I say, let them. They think they’re getting a value and no one is getting hurt. Sure, it’s dumb, but it’s the harmless kind of dumb.
Tribalism. "You don't like what I like, therefore you're my enemy."
So, you are in the tribe that likes to visit communities for a product that the majority of its members are obviously enthusiastic about to tell them how stupid they are and then wonder about the backlash?
You know, if you were honestly interested in understanding peoples' motivations to use and pay for Boost, it would be very easy to ask for it without harvesting downvotes. The way you phrase your comments simply suggests, that you're not interested in that at all. Which leads to the question: Why are you here? What do you (expect to) get out of it?
Not going to waste my time with you. You'll tell me to fuck myself the moment you're out of arguments.
Says the one who engaged in zero arguments here 😅
You can't even run out of arguments, because you have none and preemptively bail out. Nice tactic 😉
Maybe tone it down with the insults and you won't get downvoted? It is kind of ironic that you refer to everyone paying for Boost as kids. Your comment screams IMMATURITY!
If you were honestly interested in why people spent money on Boost you could ask along the lines of:
"What does Boost for Lemmy offer that other clients don't so you think it's worth to spend ~3,50$ on it?"
I'm not going to bother to look up your comments. But I'm quite confident that, if I were to look, the phrasing would be nothing like that.
What have I said that was insulting? Please point this out to me.
And I don’t have to ask. I know it’s the exact same as the other apps I mentioned.
What have I said that was insulting? Please point this out to me.
Seriously?
Yeah, I said the same thing in another post. They’re downvoting me as well. It seems these kids love burning money on things other people get for free. I say, let them. They think they’re getting a value and no one is getting hurt. Sure, it’s dumb, but it’s the harmless kind of dumb.
And I don’t have to ask. I know it’s the exact same as the other apps I mentioned.
Then why are you here? Just to tell people that they are dumb kids?
Doing a dumb thing isn’t the same as being a dumb person. Learn this distinction, it’ll be beneficial to you moving forward.
Fuck off 😘
maybe tone it down with the insults….
You had it coming. And that's a vulgar expression, not an insult 😉
I can’t imagine getting so butthurt over someone else’s opinion of an app. If I were you, I’d seek more worthy priorities or your adulthood is going to suck.
I’m going to go ahead and block you now as this is a waste of time.
Funny how that works, isn't it? The same guy who talks about a good faith discussion telling you to fuck yourself. Welcome to 2023.