Apparently there is a lot more to it than that? The mod author was allegedly creeping on younger women, there are audio files of this on the reddit skyrimmods post about this.

I cant be arsed with drama, dont know or interact with anyone involved, haven't listened to the audio files posted as 'evidence', nor do i use rhe mod... Only posting here so that a fuller picture is provided.

All that said, if the allegations are true, and the mod author is trying to use actual issues like transphobia and homophobia to cover his own shittiness, then i'd say some Internet pitchforks are more than warranted.

SO. Uh, update on the Gore situation for everyone. Making this a top level post because this is an important development.

So postgeographix shared this Reddit thread, which I will also link here for convenience, which seemingly has some pretty damning evidence that this was actually a coverup for HaydenDaws harassing a couple of women. After all, there is a lot of it.

However. . .because I didn't want to believe that there was some woman-harassing follower mod author conspiracy, I decided to react in the only way a completely psychotic internet weirdo can.

I absolutely slammed RabbittWinri's DMs with requests for clarification while she was asleep.

Which, you know, in and of itself wouldn't prove anything. I guessed I just assumed I would be able to read the truth from the vibe?

But no, it actually did, insanely enough and here's why.

A couple of hours ago, mookymilk posted an update on the Reddit thread. Not sure why, the Reddit thread is closed, but here it is, in censored form out of respect for RabbittWinri's concern for her friend. You can find it there yourself, although it might be more respectful of the woman in question's privacy to simply read the censored excerpt here:

Also there was a person in this thread who claimed [Blank] would be doxxed by this information, despite not having any information she could've been found by, [Blank] isn't even her real name. That person is a close friend of [blank] who wanted to get my comments about what [blank] revealed taken down because [blank] didn't want to face any backlash from the Gore team for betraying them with this information. Which again, amplifies that I wasn't lying about our conversation. [Blank] has since been banned from the Gore server.

"A person" blatantly refers to RabbittWinri if you actually read through all of the posts on Reddit. So how does this prove anything?

Babbling incoherently about this was the last thing I did before RabbittWinri woke up, and her very first response was "Real quick, no, Hayd didn't threaten my friend."

So yeah, the whole thing that was said by mookymilk two hours before? Complete lie.

RabbittWinri didn't know too much on her end, but apparently her friend was initially on good terms with mooky and Alarycia and was approached by them about Gore_dev's supposed behavior, including that he was apparently insulting her behind her back. She apparently started getting suspicious and asking for proof (much as I did with RabbittWinri, although that ended much more amicably), and they promptly turned on her and went full Mean Girls. Which is just one person's word against another, of course, but the narrative disconnect sure isn't. Like, seriously RabbittWinri was ready to share her side and here I was eyeballing her groggy half-awake first comment like none of it even mattered.

After having learned about all of the above, I decided to share the quote from mookymilk with RabbittWinri, because Rabbit's initial response was pretty damning against mooky. Her response to the full quote? Her friend isn't banned from that server, she just leaves sometimes, that is her friend's real name, and any screenshots of her friend agreeing with mooky and Alarycia are from the time period where they were initially friendly to her mentioned in the previous paragraph.

None of which would have made mooky's narrative look fake if she hadn't specifically made up a story about how RabbittWinri was just trying to protect her friend from the evil Gore_dev. If RabbittWinri had been depicted as in on it, there would have been no way of knowing anything was fake. Certainly Hayd, RabbittWinri, and their friends weren't going to say much outwardly. But no.

The Reddit thread is a scam and a hoax and I feel like fricking Sherlock Holmes solving an unsolvable crime with some stupid minor chunk of evidence all the cops overlooked.

Edit: Also a couple of hours later she edited it again to say this:

Their entire server has shut down all further invites and they are also going around banning anyone in there who is not completely on their side or just simply too quiet.

Also not true. I saw people who were from both there and the Remiel server acting incredibly confused because the entire Gore server was shut down, without warning. There was no simply shutting down invites or "purging of the enemy," the place just up and closed up shop before the people already there even had time to react.

Like, mooky's narrative was so hard to challenge in her initial several pages of information, and now she's just. . .compulsively lying because she likes the attention? Which, again, the Reddit thread is closed. I don't even know what the point of this is.

Holy shit that is so fucked up. I am very much on the side of the mod author. I love mods that memorialize people and pets that meant a lot to mod authors, and the mod author already felt so much shit over a really good friend passing away. The fact that other people targeted them over something so benign pisses me off so much. Nexus really needs to step up on moderation as there is tons of harassment that goes on in the comments section of some mods.

I find insane that people can get so worked up about something like this. Its not like anyone is forcing him into your game.

How is the mere existence of a transgender follower mod so offensive.

There's a transgender altmer in the summerset dlc of eso and argonians can change gender with the hist, so its not like the idea of changing gender is something that doesn't exist in the lore of elder scrolls.

I'm upset at the was transphobes will go out of their way to attack someone.

This is so bizarre, even for skyrim modding community standards lol

Well, that Reddit post was one heck of a journey.

I end up being pissed off that the mod author is likely using false claims of transphobic harassment to distract from his own commonplace sleazy behavior coming to light.

Now that new information is out, I have an additional post I'd like to make about something odd that I saw in the initial Reddit thread, that I feel now has new context with what was revealed in the new Reddit thread.

So, in the new Reddit thread, THIS was the middle paragraph of what Gore's mod author posted and part of the video, which, uh

At the tail end of this video, alarycia claimed that Thallassa, and the other Skyrim mods subreddit admins and discord mods, bought her [NSFW] to blackmail her about her [NSFW], and that they were behind all of this. If you’ve seen any of what happened on the subreddit, you would know thallassa was the mod she and mooky went to publicly denounce us on the subreddit and have in her corner. It is our belief she made these allegations up about them, just like she did the ones about us, so our two modmin teams would not have any communication. So that she could get away with cutting and cropping DM’s and tell Thallassa that she was doing so because she was [smack] taking other women in our server that she tried to involve in this. The reality is she was [smack] talking thal and making horrific allegations about her, and the other women on their modmin team.

Even in this crazy situation, this is absolutely insane. But I'd been thinking about something odd that mookymilk posted in the initial Reddit thread for a while that I think this might just put into additional context.

All things considered, [Gore developer's name] could've just taken the L on the mod, rather than have his actions exposed publicly. You would have rathered no one know and just kept developing your mod. It was the merciful option so as not to cause an uproar.

This

is weird.

The more I stared at it, the more it didn't make sense. Wouldn't taking down the mod draw attention publicly to Hayden's actions? Wouldn't ceasing development draw more attention? How would this situation involve Gore's mod author "taking the L" on the mod, when Gore actually had nothing to do with the accusations posted outside of being how everyone met? How would taking it down be "the merciful option so as to not cause an uproar?"

And the more I stared at it, the more I was like. . .wait, doesn't that sound like blackmail?

Like none of the allegations were ever the point, and for whatever twisted reason this was all one huge ruse to get Hayden to take Gore down?

And I was like, no, no, if I say that I'll look insane. Even I felt a little crazy for thinking it.

But in light of the information exonerating Gore's developer, it's been put into a bit of a different perspective for me. If Alarycia and mookymilk claimed that everything they did to Gore's developer was stuff he actually did to them. . .and now with the new information presented, they've been caught claiming that the Reddit mod that stood up for them blackmailed them, it puts it in a different light. What if all this was blackmail in some bizarre fashion? And this statement in the initial Reddit thread just. . .slipped out, because mooky was so excited to carry on the ruse that she accidentally hinted at the truth.

. . .I don't know, this has been a wild situation, and it has me thinking some wild things.

The mod author changed his user name on the Nexus to look like he deleted his account but he did not. 🍿🍿🍿