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On Reddit I frequently heard stories from either newly-passed or newly-failed private pilots outlining the entire process and seeking advice. So I started wondering - how difficult is it to pass the PPL check in the US? I heard that there is a long oral questions part where the examiner quizzes you on the theoretical parts before you even start to brief the flight, much less get in the cockpit. Are there no written exams there, just these questions? Or is it both? If both, why is this part so long (heard it can go on for over an hour)? Do you need to know what every FAR regulates? I frequently see Americans referencing FARs alongside their numbers as if they had an index in their head lol

Here in EASA land one of my friends told me that the check is "hard to fail if you paid attention" and, while stressful, yeah, the examiner did not try to trip me up with questions nor did he ask me to perform maneuvers I haven't practiced well. It felt like just another solo XC flight, a couple touch-and-gos at the destination airport including without flaps and without engine power, then on the way back a few stalls, deep turns, some rudimentary instrument flying and that was it. Haven't heard of anyone who failed the thing so far.

So, how's the situation where you guys are? What's the pass rate? Do you know someone who failed (or maybe even you yourself had failed)? Would love to hear from you all!

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can’t compare to EASA but it’s not too bad.

There is one written exam for each certificate (PPL, Instrument, Commercial etc). These are largely memorization exercises and I used to recommend people get them out or the way ASAP during their training so they could focus on the practical exams.

Practical exams are two parts; oral and flight.

The oral exam typically lasts about an hour. I wouldn’t say you’re quizzed but the evaluator is trying to make sure you have a real understanding (not just rote) of your plane, the NAS and above all can make good, safe, decisions. The flying portion is also about an hour and covers all the required maneuvers from ACS/PTS.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Knowledge - 100%.

Practical - I wish. I was super prepared for my PPL checkride, did fantastic on Oral. DPE told me “your knowledge exceeds commercial standards.” Flight was fine. 6 hours total. 3 hours oral. 1.9 hobbs. 30 min break between for food the DPE requested. It varies from DPE to DPE.

I enjoyed my checkride experience, and passed, but don’t plan on doing anything else that day unless you consult several other students and they confirm shorter times.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Statistically speaking, PPL checkrides have an ~75% pass rate in the US[1]. You likely hear more about the failures than the passes because aside from the people making celebratory posts, the people looking for advice on their failure will be more visible than those who pass and silently move on to what's next.

Are there no written exams there, just these questions? Or is it both?

It's both. There's a written (well, computer taken now) test that you take in advance of your checkride.

I heard that there is a long oral questions part where the examiner quizzes you on the theoretical parts before you even start to brief the flight, much less get in the cockpit.

The practical test is comprised of an oral test with the examiner before getting in the plane. Examiners will have their own set of questions to run through for this in addition to focusing on topics you missed on the written test (if any). The length of the oral will again depend on the examiner. In general, the examiner has a large amount of discretion to make the checkride much easier or harder on you and selecting the right examiner is quite important for your checkride. This is because DPEs (designated pilot examiners) are not FAA employees, and yes, there's a lot of controversy over how this system works.

Do you need to know what every FAR regulates?

It's not reasonable to expect someone to have memorized all of the FARs, but you should be familiar enough with them that if given the book you could look up and interpret the regulations to answer a given question. Many examiners will allow you look up a FAR as needed during the oral exam to demonstrate this skill.

I frequently see Americans referencing FARs alongside their numbers as if they had an index in their head lol

I think that's mainly from people on the internet citing the FARs to backup their comments (which is great, cited comments are always wonderful IMO) after having looked something up. I'd be surprised if any pilots other than CFIs who are constantly talking with students about certain regs have these numbers truly memorized.

  1. https://generalaviationnews.com/2023/05/02/pass-rates-on-pilot-practical-tests-trend-down/
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Exemplary answer, thanks!

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