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they've had a buggy day it seems, all their posts are getting quadrupled...

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

People be forgetting the entire point of decentralization and recommend a single overloaded instance when everything's connected anyway πŸ˜”

Join and recommend smaller general instances like lemm.ee, vlemmy.net, and lemmy.one at random instead. Smaller servers have been upgraded for the surge of users too you know

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Join and recommend smaller general instances like lemm.ee, vlemmy.net, and lemmy.one at random instead. Smaller servers have been upgraded for the surge of users too you know

That was basically my logic when I joined lemmy.world a few weeks ago. Oh well...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We really need to build tools that maker it easier and more obvious for people to do that. We can’t punish people AFTER they have an account. Instead the signup process on overloaded servers needs to change

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think we need accounts themselves to be decentralised so you can move your user between instances

Then we could have each instance automatically load balance with other instances it federates with, if it's overloaded it could just forward users to another instance

I think as long as we have the concept of users choosing one specific instance themselves we're going to have problems with everyone going to 2 or 3 mainstream ones

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

interesting concept, i wonder how that would be implemented

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know how Lemmy's codebase works but I would imagine it'd be something like the server detects it's under heavy load by its CPU usage, sends a request out to a given number of its friends, and they respond back whether they have spare capacity, and if one says it's got capacity it redirects users to their domain instead (or maybe asks them if they want to first and then redirects them)

Could even just have a pop up saying "This instance is overloaded, please consider using one of the following:" and then give a list of randomly selected instances with free capacity with links to continue with wherever you were doing on the other instance

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Problem with this is that every time this happens one needs to research those instances because probably most of the people wouldn't like to end up in beehaw situation. But I guess it is only matters if this overloads would happen frequently. Once every few months I wouldn't mind changing instance if it improves overall performance, and makes site more usable for everyone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Beehaw defederated from loads of instances right? Kinda saw that coming seeing how much they'd setup on their own instance and branded everything

This load balancer could prioritise instances that have similar white/black lists to the one you're current on, and if it suggested switching instead of doing it transparently people would be choosing which one of those they'd rather use

I think it'd also help people better understand how the system works and maybe permanently switch to another less popular instance

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It would help if overloaded instances closed signups, then they would be unlisted from join-lemmy.org

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Oi, I joined both before it was the biggest AND before I knew better.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Lemmy.World is just not loading anything right now so I'm glad to not be on the overloaded instance!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Lol I've been wondering why I'm seeing a lot of duplicate comments recently.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I was really asking myself why this happens, seems like you gave me an answer

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Only four? I saw eight!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The last few days have been a wonderful street test for the federation. To be fair, it has faired better than commercial stuff usually does under comparable circumstances.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m from Lemmy world, are there four of me?

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