Canada

For the record, I’ve been an LGBT supporter all of my life.

No, I’m afraid you haven’t been. For example, there was that time you wrote:

LGBT values are an invasive culture change that is being pushed on kids without the interests of the parents in mind.

Some of those kids are gay, some are bi, some are trans, some are ace, some are intersex, the list goes on. Every one of them deserves acceptance and support, whether their parents agree or not. A queer child’s safety and well-being shouldn’t depend on winning the supportive-parent(s) lottery. And even with a supportive parent, a hostile school environment can lead to suicidal ideation. Any guess as to how I know that?

I’ve only recently had to start pushing back because I believe certain parts of the LGBT culture are not suitable for children.

Sure, but which parts do you mean? Because lately, the rhetoric has mostly been about “drag queen story hour” which is really just reading books while playing fancy dress-up. There’s nothing inherently harmful or even sexualized about it.

Let’s set aside the LGBTQ context and take another example then.

During the Convoy protests in Ottawa, the downtown schools were directly and adversely affected. Besides the health impacts of poor air quality and dangerously high decibel truck horns, kids were subjected to protests about masks that were mandatory for students attending schools and harassed by adults as they arrived.

Given the blocked streets and protests around public transit, parents had to drop off kids blocks away and let them walk in through the protesters without parental support or supervision.

There were some days that the schools had to close for safety reasons due to the risk of exploding nearby fuel stashes and unregulated open fire pits.

Imagine thinking people are so stupid that they'll believe you've been 'an LGBT supporter all your life" three seconds after they read your claim that "LGBT values are an invasive culture change". Be serious man.

Side note, what are LGBT values? I'm a lesbian, my core values are like... Competence, curiosity, integrity, courage, dependability... all of them things that can be valued and exhibited by cishet people too. Not you obviously, but others.

They should learned fact-based sciences and important life skills, values should be taught by the parents.

While I can agree with this in theory, I think it is impossible in practice. We like to think that science is objective and that all decisions can be made in a bubble. However, everything is intertwined and human subjectivity is always present in science.

For example, intersex people are a fact. Some people can have both male and female sex organs. In addition, some people are sexually attracted to people of the same sex - this behaviour is present across the animal kingdom. Yet, if you taught this in a school, parents would complain about the “values” that these facts represent.

In addition, where do you draw the line with secularization? Schools take time off for Christmas and Easter, which are Christian holidays. Sure, you can rename them “winter break” and “spring break” - and yet, the spring break still aligns with the Easter holiday each year.

This society is built on Christian values. We need to recognize its existence in our everyday lives before we can begin to confront how it is harming members of our society and negotiate new ways of thinking.

Big issue here is religion is based very deeply in things that are directly opposed to any reasonable understanding of how our world actually works. LGBT is based on personal feelings and desires, and there is little excuse for denying people what they say about themselves. I can say that all evidence suggests fairies do not exist, and we shouldn't be including them in school curriculum, no matter how big of a belief group exists for them.

But you cannot argue LGBT people do not exist. I'm a boy. I like other boys. It is inexcusable that half of the world would have me arrested or murdered for the fact, and allowing that same hated to permeate our society would be an injustice.

You are the very last thing from ally. Wading through the transphobia all over your post history, you've clearly stated you don't even believe in gender affirming care. If you're constantly being told that you're alt-right when you believe you're not, as you claim in another comment, or need to complain how everyone calls you a bigot when you express these opinions, maybe you need to reflect a little bit more on the beliefs you're trying to push on others. Because let's be very clear here, you're saying it's unacceptable and too extreme to accept trans people for who they are. That queer people existing openly is "an invasive culture". You're seeking compromise over someone being able to freely be themselves, safely and without fear. Nah, bigot, YOU can be the one to compromise, and shush. Anyone pushing opinions that break the treaty of tolerance doesn't deserve respect or consideration.

As an Asexual man I'm wondering which of the "LGBT values" that I would hold would be unacceptable for children?

I don't accept that you support us, especially since I read some of your other post and, holy shit you aren't an ally.