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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (6 children)

So when this bubble bursts, we’ll plunge into a depression?

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pippin: What about the Great Recession?

Aragorn: You've already had it.

Pippin: We've had one, yes. What about second Great Recession?

Merry: I don't think he knows about second Great Recession, Pip.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)

By my count this will be the fifth "once in a lifetime" economic crash in my lifetime.

Yay capitalism!

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yet, somehow the rich get richer, even in "once in a lifetime" economics crashes.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Especially* in "once in a lifetime" economic crashes

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

You know, if I was a cynic I would say that these "once in a lifetime" crashes might even be designed to wring even more money out of the working classes.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

They are an economic crisis to you. To them they are clearance sales.

[–] MagicShel 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you look, historically there was a big crash every ten years or so prior to the great depression. Then a whole bunch of financial reforms and regulations were put into place and we had about forty years of relative stability. And then in the 80's and 90's most of them were thrown out. And fuck me if we aren't back to a regular cadence of crashes.

Something something history doomed something...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hmmmm... Now what was it that happened in the 80's that sparked all the de-regulation that caused the recessions? If I could just put my finger on it...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

When it comes to America, almost everything wrong can be pointed to the actions of one guy between 1980 and 1988.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Roger Stone?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's not just good, it's great depression. -Just a thought - Gnarls Barkley

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Bubble? Home prices are down 5.5% YoY in the US, rates are just at 20yr highs.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Way ahead of you

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No need to stress about that decision when you could never afford a home anyway.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I once thought that too but you never know, life is funny sometimes

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

I pay a ridiculously high amount for rent. An equivalent mortgage a decade ago would have put me in a very large property. I pay much more for rent than anyone I know who owns. But I cant afford a house 🤷🏻‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I couldn't have bought my home without help from family for the down payment. That said, if interest rates didn't make the monthly payments so high, there are some programs that will give you a grant for the down payment, for example ones that encourage people to move to more rural areas.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Where are these mythical rantals that cost 1600/ mo?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Already permanently lived in 😎 that's the fun part.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You can still get ~1000/mo in a decent apartment in an urban area in Ohio.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If the urban area you are talking about is specifically the east side of Cleveland, or near parsons in Columbus then maybe. But as it stands right now in the cleveland area specifically (can’t speak about another place) you’ll struggle to find anything that’s upkept for less than 1300 right now.

At least that’s my experience

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I don't rent anymore, but I have friends in decent places outside of Akron and Columbus paying about $1000. Also $1300 is still better than this "mythical" $1600.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I've got 1500 myself, they're real

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Our mortgage is under $1000 a month. For a three bedroom house. Granted, we don't live in the most desirable city, but it's in a really nice, low-crime neighborhood which is close to a bunch of stores and the mall.

I don't even want to know what rentals cost around here.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Ya, for those of us lucky enough to have been in a position to buy when the market was down, it's great. People looking to buy a house today are fucked. We bought our home at the end of 2011. We paid $150k for a ~1250sq.ft. home, on about half an acre of land and the local school district is well rated. It's a more rural area, with the local economy linked to several area US DoD installations. We refinanced the loan and pulled some money out to re-do the roof and windows and now sit at 3.5% APR. The end result is a monthly mortgage payment of ~$950/month.

Our house now appraises for ~$340k. While some of that movement is likely related to finishing the basement and adding 500sq.ft. of living space and an extra bathroom, most of it has just been market movement. Given today's interest rates, payments would be north of $2000/month. While we could probably make that work, it would make saving any money difficult.

Given current conditions, I think the article is right. Rent for now and hope the housing market corrects.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That sounds like a dream. I just bought a $550k house with $130k down and pay $3500 a month. Rates are absolutely ridiculous. At the same time, I don't think it's cheaper to rent at the moment.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

We got it 8 years ago, that's why.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I see! So rent has to increase to close the gap, right? RIGHT?!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This will never solve