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In an unforeseen turn of events, Twitter has decided to test user patience by cloistering tweets behind a sign-in wall

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[–] [email protected] 94 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Twitter was one of the few socials where government agencies could publish to the masses. Everyday Twitter erodes its worth for short-term wealth.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (4 children)

In hindsight, it seems absurd that we collectively trust a for-profit company to disseminate official information. Governments should probably take this opportunity to spin up their own Mastodon instances and migrate away from Twitter.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Germany of all countries has dippped into it: https://social.bund.de/

Not quite sure how this works without fax machines, but it does.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Judging by the number of German posts I see on here as well, it seems Germany is very receptive to the idea of the fediverse.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

When we think back on how the Google Street View coverage looks in the EU when the majority of Germans objected to getting their houses filmed, there just might be a certain attitude against big tech companies.

https://i.imgur.com/yYbxQi5.jpg

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Well, Germany is officially a Federal Republic, it does make some sense they would join a federated universe :)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I’ve noticed a lot of German language fediverse content too. Does anyone know why German speakers are so keen on the fediverse?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

German speaking Swiss here. Absolutely no idea.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

It's HRE all over again

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I'm with you 100%. The same thing could be said about reputable news organizations. And really, there's no better "verification" than people and agencies having their accounts on servers tied to domains that they own.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The European Commission is on Mastodon and are seeing how it goes there. They post fairly routinely.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Everyday Twitter erodes its worth for short-term wealth.

This is, and will always be, the main push of capitalism. This isn't some cute new term like "enshittification" or something, this is just good ol fashion rent seeking and it's capitalism working as intended.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

“Oh no, I can’t read anything on Twitter!”

-No one with good mental health.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In areas experiencing ongoing conflict where maintream media is either muzzled/ unable to keep up, twitter is used by people & journalists to provide updates. In countries with dictatorial governments where the mainstream media cannot be trusted , twitter (&other SM) are used to organize protests and discussions.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In countries with dictatorial governments where the mainstream media cannot be trusted , twitter (&other SM) are used to organize protests and discussions.

It was good for this, but it is not anymore

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Hey, there is some good art on Twitter. It's not all politics and Wendy

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Musk claimed that it's temporary. Either way this is an absolute disaster. This must be costing them insane amounts of money.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"we were getting data pillaged" ... LOL I wonder what on earth that means in his feeble mind.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Just some deranged rich snob who thinks UGC is .. his? Kinda sad if you think about it. People posted on Twitter with the expectation of it being public, not some man's sandbox.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

That whole tweet reads like a screenwriter shit it out to fill some tech mumbojumbo plot point for a police procedural.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"Temporary" in corpo-speak means permanent if it generates profit and there-were-some-technical-issues if it doesn't, so this is just Felon Muskrat testing the waters.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Right, they will do a cost/benefit analysis to see if the amount of traffic and engagement that they lost cost more or less than what they made or saved by forcing log in.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Because that works so well for Pinterest right? I mean, we all have Pinterest accounts so we can access all that content on Pinterest don't we?

Oh... we don't? People add -site:pinterest.com to their google searches to avoid the site entirely? Well then... dang.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Personally, I don't get many search results from Pinterest

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Or not anymore, anyway. Google's algorithm seems to have come to the conclusion that pinterest isn't worth linking as much anymore.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Twitter is going even harder than Pinterest. They're not even showing a preview of the content, they're just immediately redirecting users to a login page before seeing anything at all.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

LinusTechTips just had an issue with this on WAN show tonight where Luke was trying to show a video on Twitter but he wasn't signed in on his stream laptop and Linus was remote so he couldn't share his screen.

Luckily the creator of the video they wanted to show had also posted it to YouTube so they were able to show it anyway, but it still disrupted the flow of the show and led them to not be able to use the platform as a news source.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a much more extreme version of the same reason I never used Quora. I'd be allowed on one page, but after that, clicking on any internal link in the site would push a "create an account" dialogue and wouldn't let me click off to see the content. The way around that was just reloading the page, but the irritation and tiny extra step was enough to stop me from browsing that site. Just checked right now and Quora doesn't do this on PC, but it does on my phone.

Now Twitter won't let you on the site at all without logging in.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also... Quora just seems fucking wild

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

saw this too! looks like it broke a ton of tweet embeds too... Muskrat says its to mitigate scrapers but--this feels heavy handed

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (6 children)

What damage do web scrapers actually cause Twitter? I don't understand Elon's logic in this move.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Extra traffic that their infrastructure can't handle since he fired all the people that knew how.

Like reddit, he also probably sees it as losing millions of dollars for data he wants to be paid for.

So losing money from degraded services and losing potential money from data being taken.

What's worth more - the loss of ad revenue from walled login, or the loss of potential revenue selling the data

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Your first mistake is assuming that Elon Musk uses any kind of logic.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

There's no way they cause more damage than what they have done now. The vast majority of users (and eyes on ads, etc) are not going to have accounts. The majority of accounts that might pay money only do so because lots of people (who may not be logged in) see them.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

You have to assume flawed logic if you want to understand him.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Elon doesn't understand how to use robots.txt.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

To be fair, many bots don't know how to use it either.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

there is no Elon logic other than having an ego larger than this planet

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

I mean they have to protect all that content that they've been given for free, right?

  • spez probably
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Guess I’m not going to Twitter anymore

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Good! This is a true death knell.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Good. Finally that one friend of mine will stop posting Twitter links and I can blacklist it again.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Good, faster Twitter dies, the better.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

It’s starting to feel like LinkedIn. Can’t view a page without the person getting notified you looked.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Holy shit, I thought it was just a bug on my end. Sometimes I wonder: what has ELON been smoking?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Well, I guess we know he's been doing some weed already. ;)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Does this make it impossible to read posts from accounts that have blocked you in incognito mode?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

The walled gardens are closing their gates...

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