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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You wooly for 20 jobs on Indeed. The ones that respond want you to do a one-way interview so they can discriminate against you without facing you.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

One of the additional things that sucks is here in Australia if you're unemployed and/or disabled you can sign up for Centrelink and do Job searching there. But it is just terrible, because not only do you have to look for a certain number of jobs (I think abled-bodied people can do 20 jobs per month, whereas I got to apply for 12 due to disability), but every 2 weeks you have to go in and spend maybe 10minutes or more traveling to the jobseeker place and tell them "no I haven't heard back from anyone, yes I've applied for jobs, etc".

On top of that, if you're disabled you'll get fucked over because you can't work, you know you can't work, but Centrelink refuses to put you on the National Disability Scheme because you're not disabled enough (people who have missing limbs have been told that their missing limb will grow back, or you'll grow out of it. Some disabilities aren't even on it, like ADHD isn't considered a disability and only "high functioning autism" is allowed). But you can be a part of the Disability Employment Scheme (DES) where you still have to apply for jobs, but not as much, but you get some benefits over being a regular Jobseeker.

Generally, the whole thing fucking stinks and I'm so thankful that I'm finally out of it. That and the fact that those receiving Jobseeker payments are being paid below the poverty line because the government refuses to put it up.

I just, ugh. Job seeking sucks, especially when businesses ask for 50million years of experience but it's entry level. Or the fact to get experience you need to work in this field but to get in this field you need experience. Ugh.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Filter to "jobs that I can apply for/to from my phone"

I agree with the core of this post, just trying to help anyone frustrated with entering the same information over and over, or making single use accounts for applications, can't stand that shit and it makes the whole process shittier. Plus, you can apply to much more stuff without fatigue, strengthening the chance you'll hear back from somebody

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I won't touch Indeed, but I appreciate that you don't have a choice in some industries.

I exclusively used "quick apply" systems when I was looking for a new role earlier this year, mainly via LinkedIn and Cord, and it was a much better experience. Fill everything in once, and then single click to send an application. There was the occasional redirect to a web form, less than half of which I filled in (as they were asking for things already in my application).

Recruitment desperately needs this kind of disruption. I hope the trend continues.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A tip for anyone in the situation: when looking for a job on any website, if it has a ridiculous pay range, like 30k-140k, stay away. Usually some pyramid scheme, or scammy commission only sales job that you'll never make anything from.

I'm sure some of these work out for some people, it has to. But realistically it doesn't ever work out.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

This is the world that boomers designed.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I get the pain, but if you're offered an interview and you forget to check what time the interview is scheduled for and you miss it, then that's on you. Showing up to the interview on time is like step 0, the most basic requirement for obtaining a job. If you're struggling with that step then at least part of the problem lies with you.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Are they still complaining no one wants to work? I thought that reversed last year. When they WERE complaining about that, it WAS pretty damn easy to get a job. For entry level stuff anyway. I had my pick of the litter, but now finding a better job is near impossible again, the way it was before COVID.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I heard someone IRL say it just last week. I think the issue is more specific to certain jobs or industries at this point, whereas before it was widespread and there were worker shortages in every field.

What I glean now is that a lot of the "no one wants to work anymore" issues are centered around low paying service jobs. Which in my mind tells me basically that people have skilled up to fill better paying roles, and the overall reduction in employable workers means there simply aren't people willing to work those low paying jobs anymore.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I am so glad I am a Union member. I would probably be homeless if i had to deal with this shit. I mean, I have almost been homeless with my union, but without it I'd be screwed.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The meta for getting jobs rn is through networking. IIRC something like 70% of job positions are not posted. I have worked in the tech industry and food industry and found this to be true in both. For tech, building a strong network is more important than any degree/cert you could get imo. I wouldn't even bother applying thru websites without a recommendation attached. I think ur time is better spent working on some sort of personal project and attending every conference/event in the area u can find for whatever ur tech domain is. Ideally if ur living in a tech "hub" or adjacent to one there usually is some sort of "area programming language/tech thing club" and joining is free. You can find them on facebook or meetup. Befriend some boomer nerds at them and eventually you'll get access to their "network" and will have a lot easier time landing a job. U can be upfront too by saying shit like "I am looking to expand my network" and this is an OK way to signal "Let me know about job openings that ur friends have" / "please introduce me to important people".

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Can't relate. I work in software dev, and had to do a bout of job applications over a few weeks a bit ago.

Nearly every single job responded back asap confirming they got my application.

Most of the declines emailed me back to inform me they declined a week or two later.

I got several interviews, looking to asap connect.

Most were normal and standard process. One was way too many steps and wasted my time.

I got three offers tabled, and all were fine to give me a day or two to mull it over.i accepted the best offer and total was only unemployed for about 5 weeks total.

What I can say is hot damn has ChatGPT made the application process take like 1/10th the work lol

Did I make a simple little copy paste for chatgpt to quickly construct my cover letters? You bet your ass I did.

Did one job call me out on it? Yes they did. And they liked it and expressed that having someone who was comfortable using AI tools was actually a plus.

I sent out an LOT more than 20 applications though. I was averaging about 6 to 7 a day over 2 weeks, so prolly close to 120+ applications total.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Really curious what the dead giveaway was for using chatGPT. I feel like most cover letters are already written to sound super flowery and exaggerated.

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