Endgame is the end of the MCU. After endgame disney pished out too much MCU shit and ruined it. They shouldβve stopped at endgame and not try to make many shows that also factor into the overall MCU. Some may argue that this problem was already too much before endgame premiered. That is a valid argument.
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Terminator 2 (T2) is a masterclass in combining CGI with practical effect and its ending is a rare cinematic full stop.
The T-1000βs liquid metal form was revolutionary, the morphing effects were cutting-edge in 1991, yet Cameron used them sparingly and only where practical effects couldnβt work. That restraint made the CGI more impactful and has made it so they still hold up 35 years later.
The truck chase through the storm drain, the helicopter flying under an overpass, the Cyberdyne building blowing up; it was all real and you can feel that when you watch the movie. There is no way any movie studio would do that nowadays when they could just CGI giant Michael Bay explosions.
The destruction of Cyberdyne and the Terminators meant the timeline was reset. Judgment Day was averted. The T-800 lowering itself into molten steel is an iconic moment; a machine choosing self-sacrifice for humanity. Itβs a perfect final note, not just for the character, but for the franchise. Bringing him back again and again weakens that sacrifice. Any sequel has to undo all of this just to exist. Which is why to this day, I have not watched a single Terminator film after T2.
Which is why to this day, I have not watched a single Terminator film after T2.
I don't want to spoil anything, but you might be interested in knowing that some of us feel that Terminator: Dark Fate avoids the issues you mention, and works as a direct and worthy sequel to T2.
FWIW, I actually enjoyed T3 and what it did with the timeline. Not saying it's a better movie, or it was necessary, but still I liked it well enough.
Basically, the arm and chip Dyson used to advance science merely accelerated judgement day. It was coming regardless. Destroying them just pushed judgment day back to its original date.
I kinda like that, cuz otherwise it's a bootstrap paradox where skynet sent back the technology that was used to create skynet.
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The end of the episode loops seamlessly into the pilot. When I first watched it live they played both episodes back to back without an ad break. It took me a few minutes to realize what they had done and I started crying.
It's a perfect loop, a perfect end to Fry and Leela's relationship, and bittersweet in its existential implications
The "new" episodes they released afterwards don't count. I acknowledge that they exist but I do not grant them the title of canon.
Do games count? I would say Halo 3.
The Matrix
Aliens ended the franchise. Slightly different answer, nothing occurred between the release of Predator and Prey.
S10 E12 (The Doctor Falls) is the end of (Modern) Doctor Who. Such a perfect episode epitomising the character, and closing an arc for one of the longest villains. He even 'dies' at the end.
Everything since then has been badly written and purposefully disrespectful to the cannon and the audience, and has wasted so many fantastic actors.
Episode 25 of Death Note would have been a dark, but logical place to end the series. After that point the entire dynamic of the show changes. There are some good and interesting moments, but it doesn't really feel like the same show.
I only wish I ever learned who's the mother and how he met her...
Babylon 5 ended with season 4 and the excellent shadow war arch.
24 Season 4 is my version of a happy ending. I'm not saying I didn't enjoy the rest of the show, but God damn, Jack didn't deserve that many bad days.
Season one of Twin Peaks. Never should have been a season two. I'm ambivalent about Fire Walk With Me. Season 3 was a nice touch.
The last episode of Supernatural should not exist.
I watched this one late and saw all the talk online about stopping after season 5 or 6 whatever and haven't regretted my decision to follow that advice.
Yep. Season 1-5 is a complete and well done story. Anything after that is just if you really enjoy watching the boys get up hijinks.
I did enjoy watching them get up to hijinks but I didn't want to get trapped trying to complete 14 more seasons of mediocre story telling. I am I big fan of the "monster of the week" type shows which are few and far between these days, but it didn't seem worth it from what I read.
If we are going into books, the Hyperion series should have ended at 2. The first 2 books are so good! Books 3 and 4 are terrible.
Toy Story 3.
EDIT: And to elaborate, the movie showed a conclusion to a longer narrative thread of Andy growing up and his toys needing a new home. There was a satisfying ending.
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I feel compelled to say Scrubs s08e19, which is weird because they only ever made eight seasons of Scrubs.
I liked s9 π€·π»ββοΈ
Itβs okay as a spinoff. But itβs very much not the same show.
JD walks down the corridor to Peter Gabriel singing The Book of Love while I'm weeping like a baby.
And that's that. There was no more Scrubs.
Now, if you decide you want to see more of the gang and their shenanigans, there is a single season of a spin-off show called βScrubs: Med School.β Itβs okay. Not great. Itβs certainly not Scrubs though.
The Office when Michael moved away. It was never the same after that.
I'm currently watching The Office Superfan Episodes (would recommend, if you haven't. They add a lot of new scenes and jokes that have cracked me the hell up) and I feel like I am progressively moving the "jumped the shark" line up every time I rewatch the show.
At one point I thought it was around the time Andy got on the boat. Then around when Robert California came around. Then, when Michael left. Now I'm kinda feeling like the show has taken a significant change in tone at the point when the original corporate office is bought and cleaned out by Sabre. That's not to say that there aren't good episodes forward from here, but I literally feel like I'm not starting to watch the show "waiting for it to end"
The last harry potter movie (deathly hollows pt 2) marks the end of the franchise as far as I am concerned. 8 great movies and 7 great books. I wish there was more but I fail to see how it can be extended. Both fantastic beasts and crushed child do more harm than good to the original franchise
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Season 5 of Supernatural was the logical endpoint
Season 1 of Westworld. Itβs okay to have an ambiguous ending, you can leave it to viewerβs imagination. That show went downhill with every season because it was trying too hard to be smart.
Agree.
Saw S2 but the magic was just not there. Never saw anything after.
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