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[–] termaxima 19 points 4 days ago

Seems like it’s a great time to start a traditional call center or accounting firm and reap all the business from when this experiment falls through !

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

No one should have to work in a call center, but I’m still hopeful about this being a good place for ai. Compared to crappy voice menus we have today, there’s a lot of potential

A huge part of the problem with voice menus is how tightly they’re scripted. They can only work for narrow use cases where you’re somehow knowledgeable enough to find the magic phrasing while being ignorant enough to have simple use cases and only do things the way they thought of.

Ai has the potential to respond to natural language and reply with anything in a knowledge base, even synthesize combinations. It could be much better than scripted voice menus are: more importantly it could be cheaper to implement so might actually happen.

I actually just did an evaluation of such a tool for internal support. This is for software engineers and specific to our company so not something you’re going to find premade. We’ve been collecting stuff in a wiki and just needed to point the agent at the wiki. The ai part was very successful, even if you think of it as a glorified search feature. It’s good at turning natural language questions into exactly what you need, and we just need to keep throwing stuff into the wiki!

Unfortunately I had to reject it for failing on the basics. For example it was decent at guiding you to write a work ticket when needed but there was no way to configure a url for our internal ticketing system. And there was no way to tell it to shut up.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Compared to crappy voice menus we have today, there’s a lot of potential

It's easy to get above rock bottom. Today's voice menus are already openly abusive of the customers.

Oh, demoralizing thought, when the AI call center agent becomes intentionally abusive... and don't think that companies, and especially government agencies, won't do that on purpose.

I have actually had semi-positive experiences with AI chat bot front ends, they're less afraid to refer to an actual human being who might know something as opposed to the call center front line humans who seem to be afraid they might lose their job if they admit the truth: that they have absolutely no clue how to help you.

Shifting the balance, drop the number of virtually untrained humans in the system by half, train the remaining ones twice as much, and let AI fill in for routing you to a hopefully appropriate "specialist."

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

No human should work in a call center

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Having worked in a call center (doing survey research) during college, there are a lot of people employed by such places who really wouldn’t have many employment options anywhere else.

I remember saying, while there, that the entire industry would be replaced by AI in 10-15 years. They all scoffed, saying they had ways to get people to answer surveys that an AI wouldn’t be able to do. I told them they were being naive.

Here we are.

That said, I do worry about some of those people. Just because they were borderline unemployable doesn’t mean they were worthless.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

doesn’t mean they were worthless

Not what I said, on the contrary.
It's a horrible mindnumbing job and anyone deserves better.
The avg of employment is 6 months.
Some don't make their targets and get fired, most find a less shitty job.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I worked in one. It was just a job and not that bad.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago

"What if we threw a ton of money after the absolute shit ton of money we threw away?"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

You can never fully replace an accountant with AI, you can replace the assistants, the bookkeepers, secretary and other support staff, but the accountants themselves are never going to be replaced. People want something that tells them everything is okey or trust on a certain quality standard. That's why accountants where introduced in the first place.

But man we are still manually entering data from invoices, using basic bank imports that in some countries(cough US) don't even work properly to be trusted in the first place. Invest into AI in the right part of the accounting sector and you can make millions and I have been saying this from before the AI boom.

Edit: nobody likes mindlessly entering transactions, that's why bank connections are basically the standard now. Same for OCR invoice processing and asset tracking.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

I feel you, and AI tech has been completely squandered.

My phone knows everything about me and has for the last decade.

It is not able to do a single useful thing for me.

It knows where I go, when I go, what my schedule is, what I buy, what I don't.

It has never been able to suggest anything useful, advise me of a sale on products that I buy, let me know about a vendor in my area that can deliver for cheaper.

It's not able to notice that I'm trying to format text on my screen and I'm entering the same bullet at the front of things. It would never take over and say oh let me copy paste this very obvious task you're doing that even a child could deduce from your primitive actions.

"Transfer all of my image files off of my phone into a folder on my computer, then reorganize all of the photos on my phone into sensible groupings instead of random folders all over the place that have piled up over the years". Not going to happen, because that's useful.

"Hey phone, I'm going out. Take a look at my shopping lists and let me know what stores have what on sale so I can save a few bucks. You know all the stores I go to, because you're watching my every move." Not going to happen, because that's useful.

When AI is implemented into businesses, it's qualified to direct you to an FAQ. Any opportunity to win new customers with high level service is squandered.

I do not hate ai, I detest the fact that the possibilities to improve the lives of people have been completely ignored, while it is primarily implemented as a cost saving measure. Completely short-sighted and fucking useless.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago

Looks like the Oligarchs are serious about crashing the economy.

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