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My first months on Lemmy were spent on Lemmy.world, which was the biggest instance at the time. I had no experience with Hexbear because .world had defederated that instance. I sometimes saw it being described as a "tankie" instance, but it was nothing specific.

After I moved to .zip, I came across [email protected], which seemed to be free from anything overtly political and reminded me of r/Gamingcirclejerk, so I subscribed to it and occasionally made comments related to gaming.

Today I made multiple comments to a post about an article on the STALKER game developers having removed the Soviet symbols and the Russian audio in the remastered edition of the game. I would argue that in the thread, there were no comments from me that could be construed by a reasonable person as defensive of Nazism, fascism, or even hinting at it. For example, in one of the comments, I linked a Ukrainian law that prohibits the use of Nazi symbols, though I highly advise looking through all my ten comments as to avoid any misunderstanding or false impressions.

Conversely, one comment posted by another user dismissed Holodomor as Nazi propaganda, which I reported, but a moderator of that community just ended up calling me out for that and taking no action, followed by them banning me.

The thread containing all of my untouched posts is still available via lemmy.zip. My comments are also available for viewing via my user page. They are not available on hexbear due to the ban.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Ukrainians have the same problem with neo-Nazis as other ex-Soviet countries.

Holodomor is a bit of a fuzzy matter, it's picking a part of the more wide scale events relating to Ukraine and calling it genocide of Ukrainian people, while genocide involves intention to wipe out an ethnic group.

This was more of Stalin's USSR treating people as expendable and hunger as acceptable when he needed the resources to build heavy industries for the military. Most of the grain producing areas of the USSR were in Ukraine and south of Russia, which is also where most of the victims were, because grain was taken by force according to planned norm and to fake reports (as it happens in such systems, administrators overreporting gains and underreporting losses).

So I somewhat feel strange when people talk of it like genocide example, but people arguing against that are usually worse, so let it be.

Anyway, the point of this comment was - those people don't even think of such things, they act purely on vibes. Most of Soviet propaganda was intended for people literate in the first-second generation, it relied on vibes even more than, say, Nazi German propaganda or Western propaganda of that time and of our time. That allows it to work on people very far from Soviet reality or knowledge of USSR's history. (Of course, there were more intelligent levels of Soviet propaganda, they seem almost fully forgotten, include marxist dialectics, optimism of the future, dreams of a united peaceful planet of intelligent people using their lives for learning and creation, and no war and violence. Would be weird to expect tankies to be familiar with anything of that.)

You can't reason with people acting on vibes. Your comments' vibes for them are predefined, you don't affect them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

Hexbear tankies really are something incredible. I've been around left-wing politics most of my life and in the real world I've met like one or two people actually like them. Difficult to understand where they all came from. I'm thinking maybe it's a r/Pyongyang where it started as a joke and then they started taking it seriously.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

Getting banned from hexbear is your initiation into the broader world of lemmy. It happens to everyone who isn't a tankie at some point. Wear it with pride

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 hours ago

It's easy to get banned on that instance if you're not sticking to the facts. They're quite sensitive in this matter. Holodomor is Nazi propaganda tho.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (3 children)

putin sympathizes with elon nazi musk. I wonder what they think about him.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Musk can't be a nazi, he is white, loves trump, hates minorities, wants white power, supports putin and comes from a family with strong beliefs. There is no way mr putin would befriend nazis, as he is waging a war against invasion of nazis right this moment.

I think thats what they think.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

That's the funniest thing. Like, if you were an original Hungary-era tankie, at least you could say "the Soviet Union is the leader of the worldwide Communist movement, I believe what the SU says about itself." But Putin's Russia is explicitly not Communist or Socialist in any way. Putin's ideology is inconsistent but his public statements are all basically imperial or "blood and soil" nationalism. How do they twist this guy into being a "comrade?"

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 hours ago

They fucking hate both, Putin because he's a liberal and Musk because he's a deeply unserious shithead.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

They will claim to hate him (and Trump), and then keep on regurgitating propaganda constructed in favour of him.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Well, now you know why sensible admins defederate from this trash. I'd suggest using an app that allows you to block instances from your side and ignore them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

You don’t need an app, it’s a native Lemmy feature.

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You’re better off, they suck.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 day ago (15 children)

What do you expect, it’s HexBear. They make ML look like neoliberals.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 20 hours ago (7 children)

how can i remove hexbear, grad and ml from my lemmy? i use boost app. thx

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

You can block posts from different instancs, but you cannot block comments.

I'd recommend you switch to a server that blocks them, like lemmy.ca, sopuli.xyz or discuss.online or use a different software like piefed which supports proper blocking (piefed.social).

[–] [email protected] 12 points 19 hours ago

In the app you can mute posts from instances, to also get rid of the users you need to use the webpage as someone else mentioned.

To mute the instance in the boost app go on the profile icon, lower right, settings (upper right), "Filters & blocks", there you should see the option "mute instances", type in the instance handle and posts from that instance shouldn't show up anymore.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 day ago (16 children)

And now you know why most instances have defeated from hexbear. It’s extremely toxic.

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