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[–] Olissipo 63 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (23 children)

I'm working on a project which generates images in multiples sizes, and also converts to WEBP and AVIF.

The difference in file size is significant. It might not matter to you, but it matters to a lot of people.

Here's an example (the filename is the width):

Also, using the <picture></picture> element, if the users' browsers don't support (or block) AVIF/WEBP, the original format is used. No harm in using them.

(I know this is a meme post, but some people are taking it seriously)

[–] [email protected] 19 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

I've mentioned this topic in regards to animated images, but don't see as big a reason to push for static formats due to the overall relatively limited benefits other than wider gamut and marginally smaller file size (percentage wise they are significant, but 2KB vs 200KB is paltry on even a terrible connection in the 2000s).

What I really wish is that we could get more browsers, sites, and apps to universally support more modern formats to replace the overly bloated terribly performing and never correctly pronounced animated formats like GIF with something else like AVIF, webm, webp (this was a roughly ~60MB GIF, and becomes a 1MB WEBP with better performance), or even something like APNG...

Besides wider gamut, and better performance, the sizes are actually significant on all but the fastest connections and save sites on both storage and bandwidth at significant scale compared to the mere KB of change that a static modern asset has.

This WEBP is only 800KB but only shows up on some server instances since not every Lemmy host supports embedding them :

[–] [email protected] 4 points 12 hours ago

It's pronounced GIF

[–] Olissipo 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

but 2KB vs 200KB is paltry on even a terrible connection in the 2000s).

You still need to resize the images and choose the right ones (even if only for the device's performance).

So we might as well do that small extra step and add conversion to the process.

What I really wish is that we could get more browsers, sites, and apps to universally support more modern formats to replace the overly bloated terribly performing and never correctly pronounced animated formats like GIF with something else like AVIF, webm, webp (this was a roughly ~60MB GIF, and becomes a 1MB WEBP with better performance), or even something like APNG…

Isn't that the users' fault? And of the websites for allowing those huge GIFs.

Apparently browsers have supported MP4 for a long time.

https://caniuse.com/mpeg4

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

But why webp over jxl

We already have the solution

[–] [email protected] 8 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Webp is supported in browsers. Jxl is not, unfortunately.

(Well, I have the Firefox extension for it, but most people can't see them...)

People should still use it tho, with the fallback of webp or avif

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Firefox just hasn’t enabled the setting (well they haven’t made the setting enable jxl support yet even though the setting and support has been there for years). This means their forks support it, that’s why I switched to Waterfox

Safari supports it

Chromium removed support for it 2 years ago to push webp but it’s just a reminder to not use Chromium browsers

[–] [email protected] 5 points 16 hours ago

I'm mad tho! I have technical issues with a format that works for hundreds of millions of users daily with the only impact being their website loads faster! RAGE!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago

Just use jxl; it is better and not created by shitty googol.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 14 hours ago

Lemmy uses webp for profile pics.

[–] [email protected] 99 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Just change the file extension to *.png. Works every time.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 16 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (4 children)

i have a "save webp as" firefox extension that is good as well... sorry no link Im too busy

peace and love peace and love

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 20 hours ago

It's beautiful, thank you.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 20 hours ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 43 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

The funniest thing is that even some of Google's own products don't accept Webp, like Google Voice.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 20 hours ago

Just don't let Google kill JPEG XL.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

Stop trying to make .webp happen. It’s not going to happen.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 16 hours ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 38 points 20 hours ago

Maybe we should try to make it happen harder

[–] [email protected] 28 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

They use it on their server side to save data, they don't give a rip if we don't use it. If they wanted us to use it, they'd have cancelled it already.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

I mean... most websites don't use .bmp and that's for a reason... that reason being that it sucks ass.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

That’s basically how Lemmy clients work. No, there are 14 Lemmy clients! Ridiculous, we need one universal Lemmy client… there are 15 Lemmy clients.

Btw, check out my Lemmy client

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 19 hours ago

"It works just like regular image formats, but it's fun."

[–] [email protected] 15 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

No webp for me, just because Google is pushig it and that is suspect.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 16 hours ago

Lol it's like 10 years old at this point. Not sure they're pushing it anymore. I think files that are half the size sell themselves

[–] [email protected] 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Not the fault of the format

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