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[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Kennedy got to the the moon. (Posthumously)

Clinton eliminated the deficit.

Obama did not achieve universal health care.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Congress wouldn’t let him. The President doesn’t write the laws and can only ask Congress to do so.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Sadly, even if Sanders were elected, it wouldn't have made universal healthcare a reality.

You need 218 progressives in the house and 50 progressives in the senate. So... not happening.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Progressives would need to down ballot vote for that to happen. Would also need to support and fund progressive candidates.

Progressives currently can't even do the bare minimum (actually voting), in large enough numbers to matter.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

Progressives currently can't even do the bare minimum (actually voting), in large enough numbers to matter.

Of course not!

They're doing something far more critical and effective!

They're withholding votes based on purity testing and otherwise being manipulated into nullifying themselves by online manipulation by the right.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

He did give free or extremely cheap healthcare to tens of millions of americans and brought down proces nationwide by creating competition.

And if not for independent Joe Leiberman being the holdout for the 60 it took to pass any form of the bill he would have accomplished more.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Kennedy got to the the moon. (Posthumously)

I think just a few parts of his skull made it to the moon.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Dems: More money for millionaires. Reps: More money for billionaires.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Theodore Roosevelt: Be a badass mother fucker

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

It's not about the party or the POTUS, it's all about the oligarchs who are funding the parties and really make things happen. All of them were in debt to oligarchs and had to return the given money for the campaigns somehow. Don't be fooled, as long as the funding of political parties isn't reformed to prevent these oligarchs to grab everything there will not be much for the rest of us. Just enough to avoid revolt and riots as long as sustainable. Democracy in the USA is a mascarade.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

Did bush actually have time for what's claimed here? He was mostly about removing rights from Americans in the face of a sham war. I don't think he actually had much focus on tax breaks for rich people...

Obama continued that ritual, removing even more rights from the American people under the guise of "safety". And Obama could have shoved Universal healthcare through but didn't - he watered it down in the name of "bipartisanship", but then ultimately nobody voted for the bill on the right anyways. If that were going to be the case, he should have just rammed through what the American people NEEDED; but he didn't -- because he wanted MORE MONEY FOR RICH PEOPLE (insurance companies)

Hell, Obama bombed more brown people than any president before him as well...let's not pretend he was an angel.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The ACA wasn't "watered down in the name of bipartisanship". The public option was removed because that's the only way Joe Lieberman, the 60th vote in the Senate, would vote for it. And yes, what initially came out of committee was not as progressive as we wanted, but if Lieberman wasn't even going to vote for that, there was no way he was going to vote for M4A.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wish he just pushed to end the filibuster.

Then, all he would've needed was 50 senators, he can sacrifice 10 of those 60 votes in exchange for a better healthcare system.

[–] PokerChips 4 points 1 day ago

Obama's legaacy should prove that "playing nice", in fact, does not work.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Arguably, all were successful except Obama.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Kennedy got to the moon by giving some Nazis a free pass for heavy participation in the Holocaust.

Clinton got to the White House by pushing for and signing the death warrant for a man who was executed with a mental age of 9 as a campaign stunt. Also a serial molester.

Obama became Pakistan’s No.1 Wedding crasher, had a personal kill list, reneged on his promise to close the US concentration camp in Cuba and bugged Merkel’s phone.

If these are the best examples someone can come up with, it rather illustrates how we got to this point. Those were the “good” ones.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Kennedy got to the moon by giving some Nazis a free pass for heavy participation in the Holocaust.

Okay, so... you have scientists that know how to solve life-saving problems, but they used to work for the bad guys.

Do you execute them and society continues suffering.

Or do you offer them a chance at redemption.

Don't get me wrong, as hate nazis as much as everyone else. But I'm also a believer in restorative justice. Using their knowledge for the benefit of humankind is much more useful than just shooting them.

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[–] gnutrino 14 points 1 day ago

Kennedy got to the moon by giving some Nazis a free pass for heavy participation in the Holocaust.

This is a bit of a stretch. Von Braun and co already got their free pass long before Kennedy became president.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yep. But they gave him a Nobel Peace Prize for... saying nukes are kind of bad?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm pretty sure they all overwhelmingly achieved the same goal for the rich, it's really very dishonest not counting Clinton at least at around the same level as Reagan.

(Well, Kennedy had that car accident, so perhaps he didn't end his term fully.)

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

Reagan dropped the highest individual rate from 50% to 28%

Clinton raised it to 35%, increased tax on gasoline and removed a lot of upper limits.

It's the fakest shit to say they're all on the same team.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also, for one brief, shining moment we had no deficit under Clinton. I'm not a fan of his, but that was a thing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

A good chunk of that “fix” caused the hellscape we’re in today. He renewed the corn subsidies that encouraged overfarming, making high-fructose corn syrup less expensive than sugar. He also beefed up our trade and foreign investment relations with China which made it less expensive to manufacture overseas than domestically.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Missing a Bush before Clinton. HW before W.

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