Where did all the freedom loving Americans run off to?
this post was submitted on 13 May 2025
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THE POLICE PROBLEM
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The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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• Know your rights: Filming the police
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• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
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• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
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Oh hey look, yet another reason to never go to their trash state.
On the bright side, this probably means you could refuse to turn over ANY footage to the police by Pleading the Fifth.
That only works if the police respect ANY law...
More reasons not to go to Texas
The cops at night, Are cunts outright! clap clap clap clap
Agreed, never wanted to.
Guess every Tesla and anyone with a dashcam will be automatically in violation.
And any establishment/property that has security cameras or a doorbell camera.
That feeling when you're doing everything according to the law, then a cop walks into the frame and you become an instant felon.
Snowflakes
Can't record the police, but if someone was recording a news segment and a cop happened to gun down a jaywalker, would they have to stop filming or streaming their feed?
Nothing to hide, nothing to fear.
"Saying you don't need privacy because you have nothing to hide is like saying you don't need freedom of speech because you have nothing to say." - Edward Snowden
Nothing to say, nothing to fear
So don’t point a camera at them. I mean they’re cops, there’s so many better things to point at them.
My butt plug!
If sb1208 passes in the house
And its not struck down as a violation of constitutionally protected rights. States can't violate the constitution with silly laws like this.
Even with our current federal government? The constitution doesn't matter if it isn't enforced.
Can charge, but it'll still get tossed, no?
"sir, I'm not recording you. I'm recording your uniform."
Good way to get beat to death.
Don't talk to police.
My parents came to the US of A because of corruption just like this in their homeland. How far we've come.
Police in the US were created to capture and enslave people of the "wrong" race. There was never a time in the history of the US of A when police were good.
Then we just make it a felony to record stuff in any office...CSPAN is so screwed, and so are we.