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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I'm very worried about everyone here. Really, I know that there is a way out that isn't suicide--it's revolution--but it seems like you've all submitted to Capitalist Realism. I've thought about risking my life in an attempt to overthrow the state, but unlike you all, I am legitimately afraid of losing my life. It'd be such a sad note to end my life on. I wouldn't be there to see any surprising good things happen. I wouldn't get to see a socialist system established before me, and I wouldn't be able to do anything to help anyone. How come you all feel fine about death? There's nothing afterwards. There were the Viet Cong who couldn't live to see their country establish socialism, there were the Leninists who died fighting the Tsar who couldn't see the Soviet Union come to be, there were the slaves who died in Southern plantations who couldn't see Juneteenth. If you were really willing to die, you'd die in battle.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

This post convinced me to end my life

Edit: not in like a noble way, I think I'll try to traumatize aa many small children as possible while I'm at it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Not that i support suicide, but wouldn't letting him do it be survival of the fittest at its prime?🤔

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The other people instinctively want to save him because of kin selection. What you see in this picture is evolution at work.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

I understand that, too. I was just curious how others thought of my thought pattern.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 hours ago

Suicides no joke.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

Please keep your hands, feet and body fully inside the vehicle.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Just let him rest, people.

Not everyone wants to exist. We didn't tell our parents to birth us.

Fuck it

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 hours ago

Yet we value life above all else. If people reach that point, where living holds no worth, we as a society have failed them.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

Then, after you get “saved” from suicide, they strip you of your rights and shove you in a cell for up to five days.

And that attitude is what the staff will have towards you. You are there to be punished for daring to be suicidal and trying to reject the gift of life. You’ll probably lose your job after the hospital stay, and then get stuck with thousands in bills for the “treatment” (sitting in a room watching day time tv while you listen to people in psychosis or dementia getting the shit beaten out of them by the staff.)

But this is a good thing! It’s so much better to be alive then not dead, that’s why we need to abuse suicidal people!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Yepo. I was on a 72hr hold after a manic episode caused by a med interaction (Wellbutrin, took away the mild depression but let the massive anxiety run wild) and it was the worst fucking experience of my life. Literally just stick you in a program that doesn't give a fuck about why your there, just headcount they can bill for. I was perfectly fine like 2hrs after I got locked in and spent the remaining 70hrs climbing the walls.

0/10 Do not recommend. And this was in Massachusetts, a place wildly known for good healthcare.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago

I’m in Oklahoma. I went in voluntary a few months ago for suicidal ideation (which I think is a rational reaction to the events of November…)

They upgraded me to involuntary illegally (like, a single therapist accused me of lying when I said I was no longer suicidal, and made the call to hold me.) I had vape smoke blown in my face, was misgendered and assaulted by staff.

I won’t call 988 or any service like that ever. There is no accountability or safety here

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

We should make dying in battle a good thing again. The wrong kind of peace is a blight upon society.

[–] Tja 24 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

They do the same in the UK too

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 minutes ago

At least in the uk they let us keep our phones and provide free wifi/Internet access.

[–] Tja 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

I thought you have the NHS (and European style sick leave).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 minutes ago

Trust me, you DO NOT want to use the NHS for mental health stuff.

A good portion of my ptsd and trauma is from nhsmh services. The sheer amount of blatantly ignored abuse on those wards has left me terrified of hospitals, healthcare workers and doctors. They can do anything to you in there and you have no voice or rights. They decide what gets written down about you. They decide what happens to you and you belongings.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

i always thought (and pretty sure this is the case in most places) that suicide was technically a crime to give police an excuse to bust in to stop an attempt if needed. not to put people in fucking jail for failing to go through with it.

but then again the us would like any excuse to incarcerate people so who knows.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 hours ago

They don’t put you in jail - they put you in a “hospital” you can’t leave, which is basically a jail that pretends it helps you. Instead, you get maybe 15 minutes with a psychiatrist (I don’t understand how the one from my suicide attempt passed his TOEFL), who will prescribe you anti depressants. Leaving is contingent on agreeing to take these anti depressants. All of the other staff are random, uncertified people who have the legal right to physically assault you. These are the same people that decide whether to give you a grievance form after beating you up (which gets tossed in the trash anyway.)

Research suggests that suicide rates go up after inpatient hospitalization. A substantial aspect of my PTSD is related to abuse as a child in inpatient facilities. I’m an adult that still has nightmares over this shit.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 17 hours ago

This is why I never told anyone when I held a gun to my head. I was afraid it would ruin my life after I didn't do it.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago

No no, you don't get it. You have to suicide the slow American way with cancer and heart disease. Pick your favorite form of socially acceptable self mutilation today!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

this comment section might be insane

[–] [email protected] 14 points 22 hours ago

Lemmy do be like that.

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 1 day ago (6 children)

And then the people all clapped and patted themselves on the back for saving the guy and went about their day. But the guy went back to the same life full of problems that led him to despair. Crippling debt or depression. Estrangement from loved ones that are no longer willing to reconnect. Loneliness or defamation or disease. It's easy to save someone from jumping, but this is not help. That is not the help they need. They need constant and long term help, assistance, and support.

Saving a stranger from a suicide attempt has a vibe to it like preventing an abortion from happening without providing any further support for the mother or the child. Congrats, you saved a life, technically. But you did nothing to save the life.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago

No you dumbass they are going to be sent to get help.

Nearly everyone that attempts suicide and survives regrets trying and are glad they've failed.

Sorry for my strong language, but I've had friends and loved ones struggle with mental illness. A few have attempted suicide and either failed or have been stopped. I once took a friend's gun the day before he tried to commit suicide. If I had not done that he would be dead today, but today he is happy. He has a life worth living and is doing infinitely better.

Suicide attempts are a mental health crisis. In that moment that person is not of a sound mind and incapable of making that decision.

This is nothing like going to a doctor and seeking a medical procedure like an abortion. If anything this is like a woman throwing herself down the stairs in an attempt to end a pregnancy. They don't need to be allowed to throw themselves down the stairs. They need to be stopped and given access to proper medical care.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's a chance someone else in that crowd understood and began taking daily time to interact with the man. It's not impossible.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 22 hours ago

This capital battery is not yet used up; it may not be ejected.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago

The Hippocratic oath is far too frequently interpreted as a mandate to unilaterally inflict life as broadly and indiscriminately as possible.

[–] andybytes 11 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

What is the root cause of suicide. I say finance..

[–] [email protected] 16 points 20 hours ago

Depression, but a lot of time finance is the root cause of depression.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago

Mental illness. Not saying suicide is a mental disorder or you need an mental disorder to be suicidal. Its mostly the stigma of both mental illness and suicide.

Sometimes being trapped with your own mind can be hell

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

Can't die, he still owes us taxes /s

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 day ago (12 children)

Nobody asks to be brought into this world. You should be allowed to determine when you've had enough.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

Nope. It's a bad prescient. Society would be a worse place if life had no inherent value.

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Damn the guy must have felt terrible in that moment.

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