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I wanna listen to a particular song by an artist who has recently turned pretty nazi. As I generally use Spotify I now refuse to listen to his music in there, esp as it generates earnings. I kinda wanna pirate the music somehow…I’m not gonna as I’m not gonna down a song or two and then store it on my phone like it’s the year 2000. But short story is this me justifying piracy to myself.

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago
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[–] [email protected] 51 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Ripping off Jeff Bezos is a moral imperative.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Ripping off most of the big streaming services is a moral imperative. They are all corrupt and evil in one form or another. Except Dropout. If you pirate Dropout content you're a dirtbag.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Similarly, I have pirated The Sims 4 multiple times. Not because I plan on playing it any time soon, but rather because stealing from EA Games is always morally correct.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

My wife refuses to let me pirate books for her. She wants to support the authors she reads, which is fair. But she decided she wanted to try the Harry Potter books, and asked me to pirate them for her to make sure JK Rowling didn't get a penny out of her.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Yeah I pirate all the games that:

  • Require an internet connection
  • Use Denuvo
  • Require a dedicated launcher
  • Require a connected account

If you're going to make the paid experience significantly worse than the free one because you want to implement anti-consumer BS, go fuck yourself

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

Also rootkit anti cheat.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Honestly there's so much wonderful art out there not created by Nazis, I don't know that it's worth the energy to pirate Nazi music.

I totally understand the moral pirate argument, I just don't have time to enjoy all of the games, movies, and music from artists I support. To waste what time I have engaging with content from people I find morally repugnant is just not where I'm investing

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago

If it can't own my media, I'm certainly not going to pay for it.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I periodically delete my Metallica collection so I can re-download it for no other reason than fuck Lars.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I play bass. Metallica cut Newsted's bass line out of And Justice for All. I'll hate them for it forever. I love Trujillo now and still have not listened to a single Metallica album since he's played with them.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Eh, it's kinda down to personal perspective. In mine, absolutely a reasonable way to handle things if you love the art, but don't feel morally comfortable supporting the artist.

I recommend people pirate Enders Game, because fuck Orson Scott Card.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I was a newly out queer teenager when OSC started running his mouth about gay marriage. At the same time I was a big Harry Potter fan.

Fuck Orson Scott Card, but he doesn't seem quite so bad anymore.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I view it like the "discomforting uncle versus outright hateful aunt". I still really don't want to support him, but equally, fuck her, she's out here on the fucking daily with her shit.

Plus, at this point, telling someone to pirate anything Rowling is like telling someone to breathe. You're either doing it, or okay with the outcome of your actions.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Basically, don't invite either of them to queer Thanksgiving.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

I wouldn't invite either to straight Thanksgiving either. Who wants that kind of toxic shit bag hanging around? Fuck those assholes and the hateful garbage they spew.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Honestly, after seeing billionaires buy the US gov and then learning that Spotify is owned by a billionaire and artists are terribly compensated, I have been planning to once again fly the pirate flag. I want to pay the artists, but fuck the current options unless there is a different way idk about.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Bandcamp is decent. If you wait for Bandcamp Fridays, all of your money goes to the artist.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

When I wanted to revisit Harry Potter via audiobook, I pirated the books, and I will do it again someday.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

A system that allowed one to pirate corporate American made or distributed content while being able to give back directly to creators would be nice.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Go to their shows. Buy their merch. That’s where the creators get the most profit.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You have commitment issues with subscriptions.

I despise rent seeking behaviour.

we are not the same.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

See, that’s the thing. I don’t listen to music by Nazis.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

Downloading and listening can still indicate an indirect form of support. Up to the individual, but I lean towards this guy being as canceled as possible, recommend rerouting any efforts to listen to this towards searching for some new exciting music.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

I never needed any moralistic reason to pirate.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Yup, if you use Denuvo for your games, you can fuck right off

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You should download it to a personal media server and stream it to your phone if you want to enjoy piracy the modern way.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Absolutely. Chris Brown is a prime example. I quite like some of his collab tunes, but I absolutely refuse to give any money - a percentage or not - to that wifebeating spunktrumpet.

In fact, the fact that I'm actively screwing him out of money makes me enjoy the song more.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Yes I do this all the time for games

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

They tell us we don't own the game, only a license to play the game that they can arbitrarily revoke.

If you are going to hold my right to play something I paid for hostage, you can bet I am going to reclaim what I lost if that access is taken away from me (this does not apply to you selfish assholes that hack games to cheat then get banned).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

I'd make backups of my purchases and share them with love for preservation and promotion of their authors hard work. "Piracy" was already shown to increase sales, not reduce them. If you really want to do something against an artist you no longer align with, dont consume their products. Don't purchase, don't download and don't share their stuff. Just look around for other artists you do align with, get hooked to their art and support them instead.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Personally I won't even download it, I even deleted music ive had for years because the artist went maga. And let my daughter use the CD in some arts and crafts, because I can't listen to it anymore.

That said, yeah, I'd prefer to download over buying if I didnt want the company or artist to get the money for it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

My piracy is probably equal parts sticking it to greedy corpos and me just not wanting to pay when I can get it for free.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

You don't have to justify it, really, but it does feel satisfying when you do.

Which song of his out of curiosity? Just use Soulseek. (nicotine+ on desktop or Seeker on Android)

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

piracy is always better than paying a corpo

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If he has turned Nazi then I probably wouldn’t bother to listen to them anymore.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Nah I'm just poor

If I had a better situation though, I would pirate for moral reasons

[–] ertai 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I would rather own my files on my phone like it's the year 2000 than my devices becoming useless whenever $streaming_service shuts down or changes policy like it's the year 1984...

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

I am the High Priest of Kopimism. Download from where you want, and go in peace my child.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah. I refuse to give cuts to amazon, spotify, netflix etc.

If I pirate something from a not super rich artist and I really enjoy it. I’ll send them an email and propose to transfer them some money to support them. I don’t want spotify or amazon or google taking a cut.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

If there is an indie game that I like I will buy it

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Of course. By giving a big corporation money they then turn around to pay lobbyist groups to advocate for shittier copyright laws that favor big corporations. Why would I pay them for this "privilege?"

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