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[–] [email protected] 100 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

48-year-old Jason Brown was arrested Tuesday for violating state law when he hung banners with Nazi messaging off an I-4 overpass.

Brown's own demonstration contained messaging endorsing DeSantis' 2024 presidential bid.

This neo-nazi trash is a perfect example of the typical DeSantis supporter.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When the actual Nazis support you, and you don't say "Fuck off, Nazis" out loud in public, your silence is deafening.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

A closer analogy to situations like this one is:

Nazis have seated themselves at your table. You have some options, from best to worst (maybe not the first one, but that's debatable).

  • Kill them.
  • Actively remove them from your table.
  • Actively demand their departure.
  • Argue with them.
  • Move to a different table.
  • Ignore them. <<< You are here
  • Be civil to them.
  • Openly engage kindly with them.
  • Welcome and align with them.
[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I liked this part best:

Ironically, it was a law signed by DeSantis which puts Brown behind bars.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

$5 DeSantis pardons him with some bullshit "freedom of speech" argument

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

And he'll still be screeching about libruls about it, just watch.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Sounds like a typical Republican to me.

[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Let me just point this out: He wasn't arrested for hanging Nazi shit...

He was arrested for not getting permission first.

That's incredible... State Statute 876.12-15 actually disallow wearing masks for "events" such as these, and none of these scumbags are getting arrested for it. They're just getting arrested for not having a permit first.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That becuase that law was aimed at antifa and rioters, people DeSantis doesn't like, not his voter base.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I thought that was the point I was making, but I guess some people don't pick it up unless it's mentioned directly.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And Al Capone was arrested for tax evasion. Does it matter why he was arrested, as much as he was arrested?

Besides, why would Florida arrest him for being a Nazi? That's the bare minimum to serve in DeSantis' administration!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes, it matters why. Because if it's arbitrary, they can arrest anyone they feel like at any time.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry, let me be more clear: does it matter which crime he's arrested for, as long as he's put in jail for at least one of them?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes. It matters. That's my point.

You don't want law enforcement having access to arbitrary laws that they selectively enforce to achieve imprisonment, because they can selectively enforce them for their own agenda, which may not be to fight Nazis in the future.

We need laws to imprison hate speech specifically.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You're arguing against a point I didn't make.

I didn't say that laws should be selectively enforced (even though they already are, due to prosecutorial discretion) nor did I say that this guy should not be tried for every crime he may have committed that we have evidence for. I said that the net effect of going to prison as punishment for breaking the law will be the same, regardless of which conviction put him there.

If, hypothetically, Trump went to jail over tax fraud, I wouldn't cry because it wasn't over the documents case, or the attempted coup, or interfering in Georgia's elections.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wat.

You accuse me of making an argument against something you didn't say (I didn't), and now you bring up Trump out of no where.

The fuck?

I guess to pay your very silly argument some attention, I'll bite. Tax evasion is a serious crime and should be prosecuted. Hanging a sign on an overpass isn't.

In Al Capones case, tax evasion was the least of what he was suspected of, but it's what they could prove. It doesn't mean tax evasion shouldn't be a crime, and the cops were abusing a nothing law.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This is very much a purest vs ends debate. Ideally we enforce what's on the books regardless of who you are, but shy of that it's better to have these morons off the street for one of the offenses they commited.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Whoops, that's on me. I edited and changed my reply to you a few times and lost the plot. Hopefully it makes more sense now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Let me just point this out: He wasn't arrested for hanging Nazi shit...

He was arrested for not getting permission first.

While i absolutely abhor these people and what they stand for, arresting people for displaying their abhorrent message is definitely not good either.

The fact that they didn't get the correct permits prior just shows how absolutely stupid they are.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's absurd that nazi-ism isn't outlawed in every ex-allied country in the world

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Me: Can we do something about the Nazis?

Them: Now, now, we can't make ideas illegal even if they're morally detestable. That would be quite a slippery slope. After all, imagine what it would be like if government had that power and someone who disagreed with you was in charge.

Me: Well that's a relief, I can feel comfortable knowing that my rights are protected even as a {any ideology left of Reagan}.

Them: cocks shotgun Don't push it...

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hate this idea that all views must be tolerated. Besides, Nazism has had its say, and we've all agreed it should be stamped out. Fuck anyone who waves a Nazi flag, I don't wanna hear anything they have to say.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The one downvote on this comment should own it publicly. Come on, stand up and be counted you fucking Free Speech Warrior(tm)

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Vax the Jews? Well, that's new.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, this could be a whole theme, giving nice things they don't like to nice people they don't like: Target gift cards for drag queens, banned books for migrant children, electric cars for teachers, etc.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

South Park should use this, just go balls to the wall with ‘we think these things are evil -> lettum havit!’

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

It honestly sounds so ridiculous I can't read it without laughing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Presumably in these chucklefucks’ worldview, there’s no difference between a gas chamber and a vaccination centre.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Vaccination is the new briar patch, apparently.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

Florida man arrested for hanging Nazi

Way to go, dude! Fuck those Nazi

banner over I-4

Oh...

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

DeSantis will probably pardon him and award him the key to the city by next week

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems like an all american allstar to me. Probably a good christian too

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A champion of free speech! Lol

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

But only if it's the right kind of speech.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

Oh seriously fuck that guy. Throw the fucking book at him.

Oh wait, it's Florida. DeSantis will probably give him a job.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is there a photo of DeSantis on the bridge?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If so, he's a year late with the re-election ad.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dude looks like a miserable cocksucker.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Hey! That's an insult to cocksuckers.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Earlier this year, Governor Ron DeSantis signed House Bill 269, which includes provisions that prohibit individuals from displaying or projecting images onto a building, structure, or property without permission.

From a related article on the topic.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

should just throw his ass off the bridge

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

He was 26, of limited value. Just cut a cheque for 11,000.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That tracks, he looks like a generic video game bad guy.