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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Did she intentionally use the word disclude to make linux autists mad?

[–] [email protected] 156 points 6 days ago (25 children)

I'm currently training a new employee who comes from the "My school handed out Chromebooks" generation, and hol...eee...shit... Its frustrating as hell.

Literally every single instruction gets followed up with "no...double click"

FML

[–] [email protected] 60 points 6 days ago (8 children)

I am that generation, but I was blessed enough (not dirt poor) to have a family Windows PC at home, and my mom got me a HP laptop later because she knew I was gonna be going to a tech school program in my Junior year, and knew that Chromebooks were dogshit.

My tech teacher would constantly complain about the kids who had like zero Windows knowledge, and couldn't do shit like open a PDF in word, or simply find the terminal. I knew this shit would happen when I was in school, I literally told my mom that anyone who can't afford a windows device at home is fucked in the work environment. Compounded by the fact most teens are iPhone purists and make fun of Android, they're just too used to "shit just works"

[–] [email protected] 54 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 days ago (4 children)

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/opening-pdfs-in-word-1d1d2acc-afa0-46ef-891d-b76bcd83d9c8

Word can open PDFs in word for editing them.

It's honestly more intuitive than opening then with the internet browser (edge).

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Yeah, I'm having a lot of trouble working with younger hires, and I'm not even 30. If I had to summarize, they're able to do things like memorize button combos, but there's just no comprehension about the how the buttons were only pressed to achieve larger goals.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Run a second correlation on the incomes of these families and the tech literacy of their children and see what you find. I have a hypothesis.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago (2 children)

In my experience kids who had iDevices don't grow up to be tech literate but do have decently off parents.

I also grew up dirt poor and only had a webTV til I was like... 14. I'm way more tech literate than most it seems.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 6 days ago (12 children)

Linux users are inherently more tech savvy because there are no limits. On the contrary, there is documentation and free knowledge aplenty. Windows and especially Mac hide and obfuscate everything happening under the hood and you are vaguely warned away from doing anything not specifically blessed by the corporation. That's why those users are less tech savvy on average.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Don't jerk yourself off too hard for using linux

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 days ago

Yeah, leave some spunk for the rest of us!

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Just the fact that someone is using Linux at all means they are probably tech savvy, simply for the fact they had to install it in their own. If all prebuilds came with Linux, it would likely be the other way around. (Although why someone would, out of free will, go and install Windows is beyond me)

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 6 days ago (14 children)

Looking at the comments, it occurs to me that we're not a representative section of the online community.

Were literally people who went out of their way to not use a conventional/commercial tech product.

I wonder what the % of people on here is who have built a pc, used a raspberry pi or installed Linux compared to the outside world.

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 6 days ago (33 children)

Tbf installing linux is not that hard

[–] [email protected] 62 points 6 days ago (10 children)

Back in the day when installing Solaris and OpenBSD and such you had to specify in numerical values the number of sectors of hard disk space you wanted to format drives with. Shit is considerably easier now with modern UNIXy systems.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (5 children)

I've met people that struggle with the concept of shutting a computer down.

You are 100% overestimating the average non-techy

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[–] termaxima 32 points 6 days ago (9 children)

Is the hypothesis that Windows being constantly broken forces you to learn how to fix it ? Because that’s kinda what happened to me 😆

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 days ago (9 children)

If you've had to mess around with EMM386 and HIMEM settings to play Wing Commander 2, you win.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I grew up with mac, but I was always so frustrated that I couldn't play the games and run the programs my friends could on their computers. I finally bought my own PC in high school, and was so happy to have the control I always wanted. I haven't switched to Linux yet, but at this point it's inevitable; I'm just dragging my feet on figuring it out.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (8 children)

Download VirtualBox, its free and open source. Download a few Linux isos, actual Linux isos, and fire them up in a VM to see what sticks out to you. People usually recommend Mint As a bridge from Windows, personally I'm liking PopOS a lot more than I thought I would. Both are based on Ubuntu which is ubiquitous. I hear a lot about immutable distros, but I haven't ventured there yet. Point is you can figure it out for free and completely without hassle.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 6 days ago

Year of birth matters a lot for this experiment.

Macintosh versus some IBM (or clone) running MS DOS is a completely different era than Windows Vista versus PowerPC Macs, which was a completely different era from Windows Store versus Mac App Store versus something like a Chromebook or iPad as a primary computing device.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 6 days ago (7 children)

My father made me figure out how to compile Linux drivers for a modem card before I could have internet.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 days ago

I'm curious what her hypothesis is, I don't think there is a correlation at all personally, seen a ton of people who know nothing about their computers regardless of Mac/Windows as their primary os.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I take it someone has already pointed out that excluded was the word wanted?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Don't unclude my vocabulary like that

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (6 children)

I used MacOS for a bit, switched to Windows, then when I was 15 I installed Linux :3

Granted I do very much have autism

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Should've written "Mac PCs" just to mess with people.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 days ago (7 children)

Discluded? Are you sure you don't mean excounted?

[–] [email protected] 48 points 6 days ago (5 children)

I started on a Mac and now I'm an IT expert.

But that's because my next computer was a Dell.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

My condolences, on both counts.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I learned because I was torrenting and broke the family windows computer. It was either fix it or get grounded.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

I switched to Linux after my experience with Windows Millennium Edition. Many people have since referred to me as some sort of programming genius and hacker.....I don't know crap about any of that. I've simply followed instructions and referred to the help communities, whenever I've had trouble. Using the mainstream distributions (I'm guessing) has kept me from having much trouble.

I think my kids may benefit, as my wife only uses Mac, I have 2 Ubuntus and a Mint, and the kids use Chromebooks at school. We have 2 iPad and a Galaxy tab in the house. 1 kid has an Android phone and the other an iPhone. My wife and I both have flagship Android phones.

Sometimes it's fun to watch them debate over which systems they prefer, depending on the school projects they work on.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Mixed messages here: "I’ve simply followed instructions and referred to the help communities, whenever I’ve had trouble." Fellow human, those are the actions of a programming genius and hacker. The bar is remarkably low. A lot of people can't even read what it says on the screen.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The Picard Maneuver, inciting violence once again, I see. tips fedora

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I doubt there would be much difference. I was started on an old brick-style Mac before switching to PC and am now the most technical person in almost any group I enter. It's not as if Mac devices are entirely void of programmers and other technical users.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Yeah, Apple computers are disproportionately common at tech conferences and meetups.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 days ago (33 children)

Lemmy Linux bros make me avoid Linux at all costs

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I've been using pop OS for 5 years and barely understand anything at all, we're not all super nerds. I got it to save a bit of upfront money on a new build with the plan to buy windows when I needed it, never needed it.

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[–] dirtycrow 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I suddenly vividly remember putting my mom’s Chromebook into developer mode and installing crouton on it so I could play Minecraft.

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