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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm no Lemmy scientist, but judging by how the post ended up at c/RedditMigration , I think we're very much at the oops stage

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

!@ OverTheCliff (referring to the Lemmings nickname)

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They warned us even back in the 70's that it was bad, then it'd suddenly get worse all of a sudden with little to no warning as things snowballed, but of course the oil execs just tried to shut up their own scientists and block them from influencing congress instead of listening. Even though they were warned that the threat was "Existential".

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Money talks.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I got a science degree in the late 90's. Back then my eco profs talked about a lot of worst case scenarios that might occur in 2050's and beyond. Things like the break down of the mid-atlantic conveyor current, the collapse of the antarctic ice shelf, weakening of the air currents that feed the amazon with sand from the Sahara, and sudden drops of sea life populations (like crabs). Things that are all actively in progress now - 50 years ahead of those "worst case scenarios" of the 90s. Oops was a while back.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The graph ends because we die 😔

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And then nature begins healing. 🌹

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But we take a lot of it down with us along the way, so it's got thousands or millions of years of work to do in order to return to how it was.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It will never return to how it was... it will be something different... as far as I'm aware it never returns it just moves forward... this is/was our chance

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's what they're hoping, but what they're probably going to find is that "eat the rich" might become more than a metaphor, and that once people with the guns and muscles realize that they don't have to listen to the rich anymore...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We're actually still in the oops stage, just you wait...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think once we pass the point of no return in terms of society and government stopping emissions being unable to stop runaway climate change, we cross from Oops to Fuck.

This might have already happened.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Definitely has happened. The amount of burning from wildfires is definitely a sign of it hitting the runaway effect - All that released carbon means even hotter temps which means more wildfires which means more released carbon which means...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, we're in the middle of Oops.

The next step is the part where we are burning and drowning and dying in vast numbers.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

IMO starvation is more likely for the majority of us.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Perhaps. Resource scarcity leads to wars as well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Crop production might actually go up globally, however unevenly. War is the more likely outcome as the losers get desperate and the winners don't care.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Crop production may rise in the long-term, but in the shorter term the brittle nature of the food supply chain in this globalized economy means store shelves could easily go empty overnight if there's a drought or two, or hell, if wars break out all over due to other resource scarcity.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@entropicdrift Yeah good luck exporting your siberian wheat through broken supply chains in a conflict zone.

@livus @CanadaPlus

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, we have seen this last year with the famine in the Horn of Africa. They had arranged to ship in grain from Ukraine but then the war happened.

Even though they knew they were going to have another bad harvest and were proactive about supplies, that wasn't enough.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Is this a lost Lemming?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Great metaphor for reddit HQ's handling of the protests!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

No dear, this is still the oops! part. You have no idea how horrible the fuck! age is going to be.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

c/lostlemmings?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Don't Look Up...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This needs to be a 2D stacked chart, with a vertical axis of 'number of people'. More people are going into the later categories these days, but not everyone.

Edit: I was going to say a 100% stacked chart with 'percentage of people', but just the number is better, and may be funnier right at the end as the last few fuckers dwindle out.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I wonder how many times the Earth's climate changed before humans were intelligent enough to notice.

Probably lots of times.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah. And those were major extinction events.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

The rate of change and severity is much higher now: https://xkcd.com/1732/

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