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[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

tRUMP: "Lol...oh, you're serious? I. CAN. DO. WHAT. I. WANT. AND. NO ONE. WILL. STOP. ME.
ARREST THAT JUDGE, they are, err, umm, secret members of ms13 or something!! Beautiful arrest. Tremendous. People are saying it was the best arrest ever!!"

[–] [email protected] 22 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

"After the January sweep, the man who led it, Chief Patrol Agent Gregory Bovino, said his agents specifically targeted people with criminal and immigration histories. However, a CalMatters investigation revealed that the Border Patrol had no criminal or immigration history on 77 of the 78 people it arrested."

so just being an immigrant?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 hours ago

Being not white

[–] [email protected] 26 points 14 hours ago

the question isn’t “who’s going to let me”. The question is “who’s going to stop me”

[–] [email protected] 16 points 13 hours ago

That's where you're wrong, kiddo.

They absolutely can, will, and do. And will continue to do so until you remove them by force.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

This is settled law. 8 U.S.C. § 1357(a)(3) allows immigration officers to conduct warrantless searches and interrogations “within a reasonable distance” of the border. The term “reasonable distance” has been defined by regulation (8 C.F.R. § 287.1) as within 100 miles of any U.S. international boundary or coastline.

There is one exception in case law: they cannot stop vehicles at random without “reasonable suspicion” outside of fixed checkpoints (based on United States v. Brignoni-Ponce, 422 U.S. 873 (1975)).

The judge has not decided the case yet, but she likely understands the above well, and any judgement will be narrow and specifically within the confines of existing statute and precedent. U.S. border security laws have always been incredibly broad and arguably draconian. Successive administrations on the left and the right have kept it that way.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Don't forget that international airports count as an international boundary, so that basically covers the whole country.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

Cracks me up that Tulsa, Oklahoma has a 100-mile boundary around the international airport. You'd have to go up to Kansas to get any closer to the center of the US.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

This is settled law.

Settled law ain't what it used to be.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago

Hell, law aint what it used to be.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 15 hours ago

This is settled law

Or, at least, we'd like to believe that. In the absence of meaningful opposition there doesn't seem to be much substance to settled law.

[–] [email protected] 128 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

As it turns out, if there are no consequences, then you can actually do this.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's the literal difference between "can not" and "may not". I can walk into a police station and just murder someone—we all can!—but I may not without consequence. I mean, unless the law just starts ignoring that too...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

They can’t catch all of us.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 21 hours ago

They mayn't catch all of us.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

oh you can’t? and what is anyone gonna do about it?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Chuck Schumer is going to write an even stronger worded letter, that's what!!1!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 14 hours ago

Chuck Shumer is going to write another book and promote it on TDS.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 22 hours ago

that's a gringo!

[–] [email protected] 42 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Racially-profiled stop and frisk arrests are official policy in multiple US states, and have even stood up to court challenges. Stooge judges have been around even long before Trump. Maybe the judge forgot he lives in America.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

That judge is going straight to jail, no?

This is not a country of law. It’s a country of power.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 22 hours ago

If the social fabric was healthier there would be groups to protect good judges from reprisals. There might actually be, but they would need to be contacted. John Brown gun clubs?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Next week: “You just can’t walk up to people with judges robes and intern us”

[–] [email protected] 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I've seen police in german trains doing precisely this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

They are allowed to do so in most European countries. The UK is a notable exception.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago

The Nazis think they can.