Uh, seems like an odd reason to quit your job.
I'd have to quit my job twice a week if I left every time my boss said something dumb.
this post was submitted on 13 Sep 2023
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Taking away your labor power from chucklefucks who use the sweat of your brow to continue to oppress you is good praxis.
People talk about boycotting by not buying things from certain companies, but not enough people commit to not giving their labor to those companies in exchange for a paycheck. That's a boycott, too. When you're working for them, you're literally helping them believe the dumbfuck shit they believe, and allowing them to use their financial largess to influence the media to promote their dumbfuck bullshit.
Standing up for the people who no longer are "economically viable" means something. But go ahead, let your boss say your parents should just die when they're too damaged to work. Laugh with them about it. Go ahead and be a callous asshole who won't stand up for someone who can't stand up for themselves.
Except here it seems the issue is with the boss/manager and not the owner. If they were to take their complaints to the owner and was still brushed away, then that’s a different story. Managers come and go, owners do not. If it was a good job, then it worth fighting.
Managers come and go, owners do not.
As much as "cool bosses" want to act cool, hiring a shitty manager and then hiding behind their shitty behavior is pretty common for "cool bosses" who aren't actually "cool bosses" because they like having a middle manager shithead to blame all their shitty decisions on.
They hired the manager, what does that say about them? The idea that it doesn't say something about the kind of person they want working for them is a joke.
Is "what do you think about social security income/disability income?" a common interview question?
Just went to pay a visit to Craigslist Jobs to see what kinds of companies are there offering employment and man....there's no warehouse jobs in what was previously packed to the walls with them. I remember seeing the desperation during Covid when the worker shortage just cratered their economically exploitable pool. The amount of companies offering 4 digit bonuses was wild. And it looks like they're all but gone now, I really hope they went under.
Warehouse jobs are very often through temp agencies. Perhaps that wasn't the case in your area but things have now shifted that way there.
How is this "standing up" for anything. They said the owner of the company was cool. Their boss will remain employed and making decisions and money for the company.
This resulted in literally 0 consequences for them, other than probably hiring an employee that won't push back on anything.
Hiring and training a new employee when the person you would expect to train a new employee just quit without notice isn't as cost-effective as you might think.
If you have a spate of employees leaving over such bad behavior a good owner might be asking questions about high turnover, where your standard owner could give a shit about turnover anyway. They'll hire meth addled freaks as long as they're dealing with people with zero self respect. It really doesn't work out too great in the long run.
If you have a spate of employees leaving over such bad behavior
Lol, only OP is leaving over that behavior. 99% of people would not leave a company because of that. Just look at the other comments in here. Getting a new job is stressful and not everyone has great job markets to look in. This incident would be basically nothing for the vast vast majority of workers and leaving over something like this would be way more stressful than just staying. Especially if the owner was as cool as OP stated.
...hiring an employee that won’t push back on anything.
Thats the problem. For every worker who demands the respect and dignity they deserve there's a thousand other workers that have already been beaten into submission. The hope is that those "beaten workers" remember they can "stand up for themselves" when they see others do it.
If they’re in a position where they can quit their job because their boss said something dumb, then why not?
Must feel pretty good.
My ex-wife was like this. Making snap decisions without planning 5 minutes ahead. She did this exact thing one time. Got a job at a gluten-free bakery. They told her she needs to wear a hat or hairnet, and would need to remove her long nails per local health code. She said no, and quit. Mind you, this was her first job in 6 months while I was supporting the household alone. She told me this was a boundary she had. Biggest. Bullshit. I've. Ever. Heard.
Ok food safety is a little different than degrading behavior.
I think he's saying her behavior was bs, not the other stuff
Not sure why you're being downvoted, that's definitely something I'd divorce for unless something changed.
In my mind it was more like, if you have the means (not necessarily by becoming a burden on someone else, but perhaps you have a few months of savings you can live off of) then sticking it to your arsehole boss (which I thankfully do not have) by just scampering, must feel pretty good.
Does it seem odd? Seems more odd to me to normalize a boss telling his employees that their parents deserved poverty
Plus this sounds like an escalating argument the boss made no effort to de-escalate. If the boss didn't get fired for it that says everything that needs to be said.
Your job is shit.
You'd be quitting less often if you stopped listening to your boss.
Seems insane, honestly. Unless the new boss was actively blocking the parents' income.
In 2023 we should be at a point where there is actual technique to management, and it's not just a position where a department leader gets to harrass their crew and make the workplace toxic.
A manager's duty is to know their crew and what keeps their morale and productivity high, whether that's letting them text with their kids all day or letting them keep tabs on the Ravens game. People like to be on a team that knocks out task bullet points and reaches goals. They don't like to be on a team where they have to escape the notice of their managers while trying to complete tasks.
The US has treated upper management and shareholders like aristocracy for so long that workplaces have gone toxic, that office and administration has to babysit bosses who behave like sex-starved pissed-off teenagers and don't even have a coherent vision for their company. (Case in point, Elon Musk)
You are not a good manager if your crew or HR or admin has to handle you like a drunken politician.
Weird that shit like this would even come up
If you quit your job the first time your boss says something dumb, you’re going to have to do a lot of job hunting.
If more people quitted(?) their jobs the first time their boss says something stupid fewer bosses would say, and do, stupid shit. They need us more than we need them.
In the long term maybe, but in the short term I still need to pay rent
The system is designed to force you into debt and coerce you into work and it wont ever change if we keep playing by their rules.
True, but having the moral high ground doesn't pay the rent, so without either outside help or organized rebelion all it will do is hurt the little guy.
As it stand now they effectively won, we waited too long, not saying it can't change but individual action is not enough
...organized rebelion...
What do you think I'm advocating for here? Demanding your rightfull place as a worker is rebellion.
Sure, one dignified chump quitting will be laughed at; but one thousand? ten thousand? will make them sweat.
But 1000, 10,000 aren't doing that. This is just one person reacting to their boss and quitting on the spot. You have to organize and plan this shit out. General Strikes don't just magically "happen" when enough people are pissed off, those pissed off people have to actually coordinate with each other.
You have to organize
What do you think I'm advocating for here?
Hard to organize shit when people is arguing against spreading the idea of doing so.
Homelessness is manufactured, its part of that coercion I talked about, so... yes.
Theres plenty of employed people who are homeless (quick google search shows that in the US about 50% of people living in shelters and 40% living on the streets are employed). Employment does not guarantee shelter, as we've been told, so clearly playing by their rules isnt working for us. Why do we keep playing a game that is rigged against us and supported by lies is beyond me.
Obviously all this should be accompained with solidarity/mutual aid and real societies and not the individualist bullshit they try so hard to convince us is society. Governments and corporations wont help us but theres no reason we cant help each other if we wanted to.
Quitted works. Quit I think is a more common word to use. Quitted can also be synonymous with “left” as in “I quitted the city altogether in favour of a life in the countryside.”
Quat. Quote. Quate?