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I think things would've worked out differently if Nintendo hadn't messed up the naming of the Wii U. We probably would've had a line up like this:

• Wii
• Wii Pro (Wii U)
• Wii Portable (Switch)

They're at that crossroad again with the Switch name. What do you think the Switch successor should be called? Keep the Switch name or nah?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

or Nintendo Switch Advance

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This worked out really poorly for them with the WiiU. I doubt they will do it again. So many people (including me) thought the WiiU was either an addon for the Wii or a connected upgrade thing. Personally, I thought it was something like the that genesis 32x thing.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I honestly think Nintendo is 100% going to fuck up the name of the successor

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

@CKOW @Wussy Nintendo new console tears of the fanbase.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Nintendo needs to take a drastic step away from every other player in every market they're in.
Call the new console:
Kevin

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If they keep the switch branding, then need to just call it "switch 2" instead of some name that they think is clever but will just confuse people.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

in JRPG style, call it Switch Zero R.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

That's the unofficial name of all the Nintendo consoles, and sometimes even non-Nintendo consoles.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Super Switch would be a nice homage to the good old SNES

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

@Zyratoxx, it’s going to be Switch 64 and it’ll simply be Switch Line with 64 GiB eMMC and a flap cover 😅 (SCNR)

@Wussy

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

“Sega Dreamcast”

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I can see them doing like, "Switch Up"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Don't manifest this evil.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think you would fall into the same trap as the Wii U by staying too close to the Switch name. It's muddled by the fact that PlayStation and Xbox brands have become so tightly associated with their parent company's gaming marketing, but Nintendo's most recognizable brand is and always has been "Nintendo".

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

1000%.

People were smart enough to understand NES -> Super NES. They can understand Switch -> Super Switch.

It’s the perfect name, really. Especially if most of the changes are under the hood. I’d personally just like a better screen and a better CPU/GPU. That’s all I need.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I agree and I think they fumbled the naming convention as far back as GameCube. Nintendo, Super Nintendo and Nintendo 64 were all known as a 'Nintendo' by the masses.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

This is so confusing that Nintendo might just go for it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I think the issue with the Wii U was a combination of marketing issues and the name issue. To look at the Wii U's box, unless you're actually aware it's a new console, one may naively assume that the Wii U is actually just the gamepad, and a peripheral to the actual Wii. Like you have the Wiimote, Wiipad sounds a bit off, yeah Wii U sounds fine.

If they keep the Switch name, they need a strong indicator it's a sequel console, rather than something similar. "Switch 2" is the most obvious choice there, but not very in tune with their naming aesthetics. "New Switch" seems more Nintendo-esque but I'm not sure they'd go for it.

I think it would be wise to avoid the Switch name, but also emphasise that it's backwards compatible with the Switch in the marketing. It also depends on what gimmick they give the console, if it has the same gimmick as the Switch, calling it something like the Nintendo Swap might work? Maybe not the best, but neither was "Wii U".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It needs to be Switch 2 or something different entirely. Otherwise people will get confused.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Super Nintendo Switch

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Add a second screen and call it the Dual Switch. DS for short.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

And then they could release another new console down the line and call it the “New DS”

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The Switch is so popular, I'd keep the name. Switch 2 works.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Super Nintendo Entertainment Switch

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I say mix it up with the Xbox naming convention: Switch One

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I do like the Super Switch. But if the Switch is the standard going forward it’ll make the 3rd iteration a little difficult to name. So Switch 2 is fine

But we’re also assuming they’re going to make a Switch successor. Hopefully that is the case but I don’t quite trust Nintendo not to screw this up

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...with NintenDogs bundle.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Switch U. Don't mess with the classics. Unless it's to add a bunch of games with Hakchi. What were we talking about?

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The Nintendo Personal Computer

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe more important: What should they change about the Switch?

The last console they released that didn't essentially re-invent the entire console was, what, the SNES? Everything since has drastically changed the controller, plus the core console mechanics in a few cases.

Do we think they'll do something very different again, or are they ready to settle into a less change-focused mindset?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TLDR: I'd bet my pinky toe that they iterate on the switch.

I mean the reason that things didn't change much from NES to SNES is NES was successful. But in the SNES era, they got a ton of competition and there were no typical conventions for games. Then with the N64, they were jumping into the 3d world and that required some extra changes and Nintendo had some stable competition. Gamecube started having some of the newer conventions but kind of failed (thus why not make big changes?). So the Wii took a different route and made something very different and didn't get into the tflops race that the other consoles were doing. Wii was successful so why not iterate? Well bad advertising, naming, etc caused the WiiU to flop.

But at the same time, GB -> GBP -> GBC -> GBA all of which were backwards compatible. That is stability from 1989 to 2001. Then GBA -> DS had backwards compat, DS ->3DS same thing. And basically all of those handhelds were successful. So they combined those markets. Something more high end than a 3DS (which for people like me that didn't have one and didn't realize the quality of graphics on that thing, it's kind of huge to see what the switch offered as a handheld), but still portable. Something that can play modern games, but still be mobile.

So given their history, I imagine they have to iterate on the next console. Especially since they basically combined their handheld and console into one thing. And given that they will want to get people off of the switch, they need to give them a reason. They almost certainly aren't going to make something more powerful than a PS5 or Series X, so why would I get a stationary console that is less good and will have far less games? But give me another handheld console that can play even better games than TOTK and can maybe even play pokemon violet well... no we are talking. And honestly, people look at their console stuff out of context so often and think that Nintendo just tries crazy stuff. But really, they have just tried and failed at times, but had the money to keep on going. And also success in another area when something failed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not entirely sure I agree the Wii U was an iteration on the Wii. Name aside, they played very differently from one another. I think Switch is closer to being an iteration on Wii U than Wii U on Wii.

That said - the rest of your points are pretty good. They basically had no choice but to make drastic changes on the N64, and the giant change from the GameCube to the Wii was a change in strategy as a reaction to failure. Plus the points about the handhelds.

I'm cautiously optimistic the next console will just be a better Switch, but I definitely wouldn't bet my pinky toe on it just yet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I prefer a separate name or something that's easily distinguishable like the Super Nintendo Switch suggestion in comments.

The playstation nomenclature sucks in my opinion, can't tell which is which when looking at them (specially ps3 and ps4 I feel like they're the same)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Super Switch lol

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