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    [–] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    One has super cow powers, the other one doesn't.

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

    But unfortunately, apt moo | cowsay does something horrible to the cow in the speech bubble.

    [–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    Wait until you learn of aptitude...

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

    Pfff I know all about the aptitude, who do you think I am? Someone who doesn't know the aptitude? I use it all the time for a lot of ... stuff the aptitude does

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    aptitude has been my go-to since at least woody or potato.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

    One of the lines of all time.

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    [–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    When working with RHEL I always flip a coin to see if I'm gonna use yum or dnf this time

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    Wasn't yum just mapped to dnf a while back?

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    [–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    jesus I feel old, and I am only in my 30s. I remember not having apt. How young are linux users nowadays?

    [–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    I got tennis shoes older than you, (literally a pair of original Converse I bought new back in the 1970s). I was there before the original chains of Unix, DOS, and finally Linux were foraged. I saw OS2 die in battle. And I saw the dark time of when paper and pencils and slide rules vanished from this earth.

    The knowledge of apt-get and apt only matters to those warriors of the Cli when they wield the sword of sudo to vanquish the evils that exist when upgrading. For they do the bidding of the dark wizards of Dev, holders of the command su.

    Now that I have demonstrated my age by showing everyone how senile I am. 'apt install' is aimed at users to give a nicer response to it's use. It need not be backwards compatible either. 'Apt-get install' is older and is meant to be usable as a lower level command and to work with other APT based tools.

    What does this mean for you today? Not a damn thing. I still always type: sudo apt-get install when using a deb based dsitro out of sheer habit. But it's not needed the vast majority of the unwashed masses. So feel free to just type apt install to help prevent carpel finger nail.

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    [–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (10 children)

    jesus I feel old, and I am only in my 30s. I remember not having apt. How young are linux users nowadays?

    Well... how old were you when you got your first computer? That young.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Dicey proposition, some mid and older genX grew up before home computers were commonplace.

    When I was in my tweens, only really affluent people had computers. Schools had one single computer in a classroom or maybe a couple in a lab, and almost no one was computer literate.

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    [–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    I'll just copy whatever is in the guide I'm following at the time.

    [–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

    Here lie dragons. Make sure you understand commands that you run on your computer. πŸ‘

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Cargo-culture is alive and well in the era of LLMs

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

    People don't change. Some people look at what they're repeating and try to understand the why, others blindly do what they are told by whom they deem as authority. LLMs are the latest, earlier were various websites (which LLMs were trained on, uh oh), still before that were the computer magazines with things to type in and the later versions even maybe a free CD of stuff. The printed media was less likely to have malicious things in them, but lord did they have errors, and the right error in the wrong place could ruin someone's day if they just ran it without understanding it.

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    [–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

    I came in for the jokes but all I found was helpful responses. Did I get the Nazi virus from Reddit?

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    This is one of the reasons I need to set up Linux at home. I use it at work but who knows what the flavor of the week is?

    At this point I can’t tell the difference between yum and rpm and apt and dnf

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

    Edit: realized you meant in the sense of hot swapping flavors after I typed out a whole explanation lol. Should start recommending niche distros and collect package managers like trading cards lol.

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    yum = dnf, dnf is just the newer version which was rewritten several times.

    apt is a weird attempt to "upgrade" apt-get with better user interface without messing with the compatibility of apt-get used by scripts and whatnot.

    Both of these are dependency handling package managers which do all the magic of installing required subpackges when you want something.

    rpm is the underlying system package manager which deals with the actual task of installing, removing, and generating packages in the .rpm format. It is analogous to Debian's dpkg which uses the .deb format. It's usually not used by the end user unless you need to play with a package directly like with a .rpm or .deb file.

    Hence why some distros (or people) have their own dependency package manager, like zypper on OpenSUSE (rpm) or Aptitude on Debian (deb).

    Although I think Aptitude might just be a fancy wrapper for apt lol.

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    [–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

    I know about these and git and flatpaks and snaps and can definitely explain them all to you! But unfortunately, I just remembered I left my oven on...

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

    Nala gang rise up!

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

    Console chiding me every time I use apt-get out of habit because it’s deprecated now…

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