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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

Wow, you mean there’s a way to respond to these protests that isn’t getting massively indignant and outraged at an inconvenient breach of decorum? I bet he didn’t know he could just have security escort them outside where it would be totally legal and morally justified to run them over.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

massive eye-roll at the response from the festival director

We very much regret that yesterday’s concert was unexpectedly interrupted by two climate activists from Renovate Switzerland. In general, we support standing up for environmental issues. However, we have no sympathy at all for the way the two activists acted last night. They disturbed our audience as well as the artists

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I cant blame the director for following up on what they were paid to look after as they can't exactly encourage the behaviour. To be honest this is the best option all around - and hey, if you (the director) expect climate activists to stay on social media and be ignored you should probably stick with doing the same.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah, we can definitely blame them.

If they can't handle some true words being said on their event because they care more about their customers (and by extension their money) than humanity, then that is on them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Sorry, can't agree.

I don't want climate activists crashing my wedding, nor do I have to be ok with it.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Jeez, this is beautiful. A few minutes of interruption, a short speech, no arrests — a rare and for me thoroughly unexpected moment of sanity.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I thought the same thing. No one was hurt and maybe some in attendance were actually impacted. And then music... beautiful

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Let them talk for once and then we will play the symphony, otherwise I'm leaving the scene now

This is a nice strong statement from the conductor, not only letting then speak but also implying that they have something important to say that is often dismissed.