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Hi guys. Basically what title says I have been using YouTube revanced since the beginning but now I'm looking for replacements so that I can get rid of the last Google app on my phone and microg all together but I really hate sensational thumbnails and titles on YouTube and kinda got used to DeArrowed thumbnails

Edit: link for the people who might not know what DeArrow is and might be interested

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Not a 3rd party front end as such but on android I use YT through browser with DeArrow, Sponsorblock & uBO. I never sign in to YouTube, subscriptions & "watch later" i handle via a specific note set up in Joplin. Also all tracking is removed first via Untracker. Takes an extra few seconds to add video links to Joplin but its become second nature & works well for me & of course this way let's me save links to PeerTube content & any other sources too

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Thanks Sounds good but I can't access YouTube without a VPN so I'm gonna get the "login to confirm you're not a bot" error the second I open YT on web

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Materialious has DeArrow, but apparently only the desktop and Android clients work. The web client is blocked by YT unfortunately :(

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Public Invidious instances are kinda Dead at the moment

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I love dearrow, it's an invaluable tool. I wish grayjay (https://grayjay.app/) will support it in the future.

Edit: there is a fork the YouTube source with dearrow support, but not official. https://github.com/netux/grayjay-source-youtube

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I have literally tried all of the YouTube Frontends I can find and grayjay is the most reliable of them all in my opinion but their YT plugin doesn't support DeArrow. It seems like Louis Rossman doesn't like these tools as he repeatedly said on his channel He's not a fan of neither the SponsorBlock and nor DeArrow and understandably so after all he is a content creator himself. I wish instead of making a bunch of useless yt frontends someone would fork their plugin but I understand maintaining it would be hard work with YouTube constantly changing things in background and subsequent upstream updates need to be merged so who am I to judge I guess

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah I became aware of their stance on SponsorBlock while enabling it in Grayjay. TBH, if they are still giving me a choice, I don't mind what their stance is on this. I (and this is my super personal opinion) much prefer to consciously donate than being served ads or passively contributing to the youtube sponsor hustle.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah who cares as long as they have it. But that's why I think they probably don't have any plans to add DeArrow to their official YT plugin

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The fork doesn't look like it's being maintained unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

wow just what I was looking for and it's abandoned

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Ah true, stupid me I didn't even look at the repo history or commits. Thanks for pointing it out :)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Yeah I wish it was official! Love DeArrow and grayjay!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah I have tried freetube android recently. It looked very alpha stage to me and lacking but promising

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Nothing about it seems alpa to me, but it's down quite often because youtube is fighting against it. I use pipepipe as a backup.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I meant their android port I use their desktop app that's great

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Funny how the desktop app doesn't work for me either

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah sometimes it doesn't work for me too but I think that's because I use a VPN

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It says here that LibreTube works, and I just checked and can confirm. In its settings, choose SponsorBlock -> Enable DeArrow.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah I know I tried this one recently too but with recent YouTube restrictions It doesn't work for me anymore

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago

yeah, nowadays i think they changed their focus from watching directly from YouTube or piped to being a client for personal instances, quite a shame...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

did you try to change instance in settings?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There were some preset piped instances in it I tried some of them. I have to mention that I use a VPN to access YouTube and maybe that is my problem but I have to use a VPN since YouTube access is restricted where I live

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The Dev is implementing a local only mode for the next version. It can be downloaded from the Nightly-Builds Repo if you want to try it.

This is the link to the nightly-builds: https://github.com/libre-tube/NightlyBuilds

Be aware that it is a Debug-Build so it will be a bit laggy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Thanks but How can it solve "confirm you're not a bot" error without a logged in cookies?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I use LibreTube and I can confirm that with settings "Disable Piped proxy" and "Local stream extraction" enabled it works. Give it a try

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah someone else suggested that too I installed it again and to my surprise it works for now but I'm sure I tried the local extraction the last time too anyways thanks gonna test it for a few days with multiple VPN servers to see if it really passes Edit: it still doesn't work with some VPN servers "confirm you're not a bot" error

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

SmartTube for Android TV

But I suppose it's not what you're looking for if you want ans it's only for android smart TVs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah it's the best YouTube Frontend for Android TV for sure

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm not 100% sure about DeArrow, but ReVanced definitely still works, and it does support Ajay's Sponsorblock, so I suspect DeArrow would also be supported.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Yeah I have been using yt ReVanced for years and you're right it supports both dearrow and sponsorblock but recently I have gotten rid of all Google apps on my phone except yt ReVanced and microg and I'm looking to finish the job

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I did the same... ditched all google services, except maps and revanced. They're just unbeatable right now in terms of user experience

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

Yeah I agree. I'd love to get rid of maps, but location history is just way too valuable to give up, and I couldn't find anybody else who does it.

I also really like navigation that's responsive to current traffic levels. Obviously even if someone else provided that, them having fewer users would mean it's not going to be very effective, but I'd be willing to switch to someone else who at least was attempting to do that, even if their userbase wasn't there yet.

Right now though...nobody that I could find even tries to do either of those crucial features.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not following your logic here. Why would you want to get rid of ReVanced? It's not a Google product any more than other alternative frontends, right?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because It's modded official YT app with probably a lot of telemetry and phoning home in background

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago

I guess I just assumed they'd remove the telemetry, but yeah, shouldn't assume.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Could you list the replacements you use? I am especially wondering about Google maps.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Try both Magic Earth and Organic Maps but none of them work flawlessly like Google Maps and you have to either give up on it or make concessions

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

organic maps is great, also magic earth