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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 hours ago

I'm not against violence as a solution. It just shouldn't be the first solution you come up with, or the second.... Or the third.

Violence as a solution is a last resort.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 hours ago

For everyone who says something like that, i try to remind them of this little things called WWII

[–] [email protected] 19 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Can't discuss a fascist away, but you can get rid of him by violent means. Violence is sometimes morally acceptable if not outright required even.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Who has the moral authority to decide when or when not to use violence?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago

Usually whoever has the most accumulated violence. History is written...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

How about this:

Violence is never a good solution but a necessary one and one any functioning government will prevent its populous from using against themselves or else they would no longer function as a a government so the best we can ask for is a government that does the least harm and considering we have had a longer span of peace than any preceding civilisation then we can conclude a violent uprising would cause more harm than good so we should except the status quo given it's net benefit to the collective, however there will inevitably be those who society is less beneficial too so much so that a revolution would be beneficial but the individual cannot rule the collective because that would be a dictator and no stable society could exist when one man has grievances against it can dismantle it so we must always weigh the the against the benefits heavily before considering any sort of rebellion while simultaneously keeping in mind the overwhelming likelihood that it will outright fail given the powerful by definition have more power than the weak and include the resulting loss in our calculation.

What do you think? To wordy or will it catch on?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 13 hours ago

I found some of these on the floor, I think you dropped them: ,,,,,,.,.,.,,.,,,.,.,

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

The equalizer is Collective Power of all the people uniting in-person and online

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I'm gonna need this in meme form with no more than 15 words

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago

We failed to make Russia bend the knee with soft power.

Rearming Europe, after decades of trying without, is necessary because there's an ongoing war in Europe.

We overestimated our influence without an army, and that's even with the army of turkey and USA on our side in case we'd get attacked.

Violence is necessary, just unwanted. If someone hits my wife then I'm not going to use my words to solve the situation.

It's complicated because if you give everyone a gun, then there's a shooting happening every day. Give nobody a gun, then we don't know how to defend our countries.

Pros and cons to be outweighed, depending on the larger context.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

violence is never the solution, but it works in a pinch for sure : )

Of course the solution to peace is not having war, but if someone attacks you, don't just stand there and do nothing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

The threat of violence is always there.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Yep. Violence isn't the solution, it's the last resort.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's a reason why we're taught about MLK instead of Malcolm X.

They're well aware of how little nonviolent protest accomplishes in the end.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

A very good example of an exception, no doubt. Shall we tally up the number of times it took violence to drive out the British, though?

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Anyone who thinks violence has never solved anything should open a history book

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago

The credible threat of violence is often much more powerful than violence itself. See unions, the civil rights movement, mutually assured destruction.

Society is very often an implicit contract of "do what we want or else." Without the "or else", the powerful have no reason to listen.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A more accurate morality would be "Violence should never be the first course of action".

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Violence should never be employed

  • against someone who is not harming you or infringing on your rights

  • against a party genuinely willing to negotiate

  • when your use of violence will seem excessive to onlookers such that they will turn against you

[–] [email protected] 105 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Violence is often the solution, but it shouldn't be the first solution we try.

It's stupid to assert that law enforcement should be completely unarmed. There's absolutely legitimate situations where it's in the public's best interest. Now, the situations that do require it aren't super common, but they exist.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 day ago (3 children)

In the US at least, law enforcement is overarmed. We'd cut back on a lot of unnecessary violence if, say, officers kept their guns in the trunk rather than on their hip.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago

Or you could do what Finland does, and make an independent investigation every time the police shoots someone.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago

Police Union: How could you trample on the sacred rights of the police to escalate any situation into multiple fatalities?

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

Self defense is a thing. I notice most these comics that end up on my front page pretty much suck. Oh a .ml post. I see. Is there a non .ml version of "comics" somewhere?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Complete the following sentence:

"Live by the sword, ___ __ ___ _____."

[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago

fish on my couch

[–] [email protected] 10 points 18 hours ago

shit on my chest

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 day ago (18 children)

Violence is almost always the solution. Civilization is an effort to find a better solution. But people who reject the systems we've built up seem to forget why we built then.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Oh, bullshit.

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