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[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Last paragraph sums it up for those looking for a quick snack:

"The claim that a trade war with the US is best avoided is valid. But Trump has already started the war. The real question then is whether Europe should surrender without a fight, hoping for the unlikely benevolence of the victor (and validating its disdain for a weak and divided EU), or whether it should fight back, while remaining open to negotiation, in order to truly seek a solution to the trade war. Bending the knee to the tyrant will most likely encourage the tyrant to ask for more. Therefore, if the aim is to end an economically devastating conflict as quickly as possible, the EU must risk responding in kind to US tariff aggression."

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

If there is no retaliation, then there is no incentive to stop the tariffs on the USA side. Even if that wasn’t trump, it’s logical.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

nah, as a USian, you fucking slap those tariffs right back onto the US.

You do NOT let my stupid ass president get away with this dumb lame ass bullying.

Believe me, the bulk of the U.S. population supports you in throwing the middle finger to Trump, and to making consequences happen for doing dumb shit.

There is no other option other than retaliating, otherwise this will simply continue until you do retaliate. This is how loser bullies work.

Also, can y'all please put a MASSIVE tariff on couches to piss of JD Vance?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

AGREED. We need to be moving further away from tribalism and isolationism, not back toward it. This path we're on is the complete opposite of the Star Trek-esque utopia I always envisioned.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Believe me, the bulk of the U.S. population supports you in throwing the middle finger to Trump, and to making consequences happen for doing dumb shit.

For me, that's hard to believe after the majority of US citizen voted for this clown, even though they knew exactly what they would get.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Voter turnout was roughly 64.1% and out of those, 49.8% voted for Trump, bringing the total to about 32% of eligible voters. While one can absolutely make the argument that abstaining from voting implicitly supported Trump as Republicans typically fare better in low-turnout elections, it's not exactly factual to say that the majority of citizens voted for him

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It really isn't accurate at all to say the majority voted for Trump, I am not trying to defend the choice not to vote, but a bunch of not voting is not the same as a bunch of people voting, it is a very simple self evident fact if what you are concerned with is identifying what most people want.

If the overwhelming majority of USians voted for Trump, we would be in a even more terrifying place than we are.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If a third of your population can't be bothered to vote against him, I see them in support of him.

Voting is a privilege but also a duty

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This was literally my second sentence.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, I misread that as you trying to sy it doesn't mean that

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Not very convincing. Tariffs mainly hurt yourself, and if you exclude pretty much the only things the EU is actually importing from the US like the author suggest they are also meaningless.

Anti-coercive efforts that hit US big tech services I can get behind, because regardless of the outcome it will be good to reduce reliance on those.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Honestly though, I feel this is bound to happen with at least some of the countries