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As world leaders reacted to the US president’s “liberation day” tariff policies demolishing the international trading order, about $2.5tn (£1.9tn) was wiped off Wall Street and share prices in other financial centres across the globe.

World leaders from Brussels to Beijing rounded on Trump. China condemned “unilateral bullying” practices and the EU said it was drawing up countermeasures.

While Trump timed his Wednesday evening Rose Garden address to avoid live tickers of crashing stock markets, that fate arrived when Asian exchanges opened hours later.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

As long as American products are not competitive in international markets, be it because of price, quality, or marketability, there will always be a trade deficit.

Just take cars. The US produces cars basically for the American market only. No other country produces or uses cars like that. But they all produce cars they like, that other countries like, and even Americans like.

American car companies cannot expect to sell goods to other countries that simply have no markets in those countries.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

From a UK perspective, a lot of US cars would be illegal to drive on public roads here - too large, too dangerous for pedestrians and other road users. "Dangerous" also applies to some of your other potential exports too. Chlorinated chicken, for instance, isn't considered safe for consumption. So the absence of a market for those goods isn't simply "customer preference".

As a European, we've been too dependent on the US on some things for too long. We need to be more independent. The situation in Ukraine has shown that; we need to be able to support our allies better. But the US trashing their own economy, making themselves into global pariahs and handing over their superpower status to China is what I would have described as "not my dream way" of achieving that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

Apart from the point that I'm not an American, I consider the issues you raised as part of "marketablility" -- if it is so unsafe that it is illegal here, you can't bring it on the market. But it also includes issues like American cars simply being to big for European roads (I recently had an issue with a US brand pickup truck driver noticing that the car is too big for the city's underground car park. As he was in the queue in front of me, it took a while to sort this mess out).

That we Europeans have to stick closer together is something I preach for decades now, If Trumps tantrums finally helps some European politicians to see the light, so be it. And if this leads to taking down American market dominance at the same time, I'm not going to cry a river.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Trump is a walking disaster honestly he's got to be the dumbest moron on the planet.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The morons voting for him TWO TIMES are infinitely more moronic than him.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

He'd probably still win that election...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

That's an insult to morons. He's a fuckwit, a sentient turd.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

I wouldn't call him the dumbest, but is certainly one of the most evil and manipulative.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 day ago (5 children)

The biggest take away I see from this is how easy it was to remove $2.5 trillion dollars .... yet the world didn't end.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago

I mean, the stock market is still up 5% or so from a year ago. Which doesn't refute your point that it's disconnected from reality, but rather that the wealthy people are not exactly suffering due to a single day or even a few weeks of market losses.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 21 hours ago

Check your pension fund

[–] [email protected] 9 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Imagine they go into building trains and tracks!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 21 hours ago

Investors have a long way to go before they're living like subsistence farmers.

There's always someone else who is working harder for less, so the idea work won't get done is bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It is almost like the Orange Turd does not know what he is doing.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Or perhaps he does and simply isn't being transparent with his true objectives for America. He did say everything was going to plan, after all ...

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

His handler's goal is to dismantle the US. He doesn't know what he's doing, he just knows he gets to sniff the mushroom every time he follows orders

[–] [email protected] 7 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Putin could not possibly have any dirt on Trump that is worse than the publicly available knowledge we have of his personality and activities. If he's working with Russia it's because he wants to, not because he's being coerced.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

If Trump is a Russian asset as we all believe then Putin will have irrefutable proof that would be able to put Trump in prison.

He’s also likely to have evidence of other crimes that everyone is pretty sure that he has done and is doing.

A lot of the publicly available stuff has a lack of evidence, a lack of motivation to get the evidence or a lack of will to impeach and prosecute a sitting president. It’s possible that Putin could release enough information to overcome those barriers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago

Putin will have dirt that trump thinks is important, like that he has a comb over or some other trivial crap.

That the whole world knows he's a weird, small handed, incontinent, idiot doesn't register with his own opinion of himself.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Nah pretty sure that's him just not having the ability to even acknowledge its going to shit. Never admit defeat type of mentality.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

por que no los dos?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He knows exactly what he’s doing. Running a protection racket.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's always unclear whether he's deliberately destroying the West in the service of Russia, or whether he's just unwittingly destroying the West in the service of Russia. That's his great mystique.

Although by leaving Russia and only Russia out of these tariffs he may have just made himself a little less intriguing.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

So much winning!

No one wins a trade war. We all get to lose because of one loser (well, plus 70 million other losers).

[–] [email protected] 9 points 17 hours ago

You should also hold the non voters accountable.

As far as I'm concerned if you didn't vote against him then you're also to blame.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago

It's a repost of a meme, but damn, there's so many great opportunities for this one:

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wouldn't say all of them are in turmoil, the US markets have been hit about twice as hard. And most of my European stocks actually went up today.

Lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago

I'm only invested in broad market from all over the world, everything is down on average.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago

Putin’s puppet Krasnov pushing it as far as he can get away with.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Looks like the American stock market was hit the hardest..

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