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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I feel sorry for Americans. The best of the 2 viable parties is a party keen on supplying a genocide, and somehow if you vote 3rd party you're more responsible than said genocide suppliers, even worse republicans, and non-voters. That's wild.

The uncomfortable reality is that you aren't gonna solve your country's problems in the voting booths. Good luck to you, genuinely.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago

The uncomfortable reality is that you aren’t gonna solve your country’s problems in the voting booths

Until the majority of liberals in our country realize this, it's doubtful our problems will be solved at all

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago

3rd party voters aren't worse non voters, and definitely are not worse than maga voters. If you honestly couldn't stomach voting for the Dems, that's your right and your choice. If you have accepted the consequences of your actions, then I can disagree with you but I don't hate you. The only ones worse than maga are the public masterbators who try to pretend like the Democrats made them do it, or how they were doing something noble, or teaching the Dems a lesson.
I am not the type to kink shame people, but I really don't want to be part of whatever weird masochistic justice warrior public flagellation shit they are trying to get off to. I didn't and I don't consent, so they can fuck right off that shit.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 19 hours ago

Wow, all those third-party voters are really grumpy in these comments.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Keep trashing them, that will bring em over.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

They need to understand that their logic is flawed. If they won’t, they will not make the right choice anyhow.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Well. Facts didn't work. Pleading with them didn't work. Now we all have to suffer because of their stupidity.

Yeah, I'm moving on to calling them fucking idiots.

I've spent countless hours trying to logically explain basic concepts to conservatives and 3rd party voters, some of whom are my actual friends and family, so I treat them with respect when I speak to them.

Trust me when I say you are NOT going to convert them.

The only hope is catching people with logic and facts when they're young and first developing their political opinions.

Our economy is now tanking because of these fools. Yet another economic crisis in my lifetime. Fuck them. I'm sick of their pathetic, stupid shit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Did you try fielding a decent candidate? No. You brought pro genocide candidates. There's no logic to fix that, my friend. The DNC and RNC defend their funders, and third party voters understand this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 42 minutes ago

Boggles my mind how all these people desperately trying to whip everyone into supporting the two-party system, just assume that third-party voters and non-voters automatically owe their vote to their party. The sheer vanity and arrogance of it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.36LT4WK

Third-Party votes were not the balance of this election. That is complete and utter lie on your part. Even if every single Third Party voter voted for Harris she would not have had enough votes to win. Not that Libertarians were going to go for her in any case.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

FYI, the article you are posting is from November 2024, when all the votes weren't counted yet.

The final numbers show Trump with 2.3 million more votes. 77.3 million (49.8%) vs 75 million (48.3%) of the total vote. Third part candidates, including write-ins, were 2.13% of the vote. 2.97 million people voted third party or write in. This is also not counting the 90 million that didn't vote but where registered.

So no, you are wrong. If every single third party voter voted Harris, she would have won.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_and_independent_candidates_for_the_2024_United_States_presidential_election

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

She would have won the popular vote. Not necessarily the election.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Our economy is now tanking because of these fools

Funny how these accusations were relatively absent for the last three months while visa and green card holders were shipped off to labor camps in El Salvador, but as soon as Trump does some shit to tank the economy, that's when the knives come out

Liberals will defend the same problematic capital structures as republicans - change my mind.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

So by that logic, third party voters were fine with visa and green card holders being shipped out in the same way they're ok with tariffs making the U.S. the enemy of the world except for "liberals" complaining about their poor choice and making them feel bad.

Wasn't much of a concern when voting though.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago (11 children)

I'm not going to blame the 3rd party voters. At least they voted.

Put your anger towards those who couldn't even be bothered to do so.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

How about both?

Yeah, non-voters are the dumbest of the dumb. Period.

But if you voted 3rd party in a PRESIDENTIAL election, you're a goddamn idiot.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

It basically means they don’t understand the rules of the game. If they are willing to learn, cool, but many are not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

No? My vote for President literally does not matter in California. I voted for Harris because Fuck Trump, but my vote doesn't mean shit in this state. I literally have more value voting 3rd party than I do for either major candidate because of how the Federal Election Funding requirements work for 3rd parties.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

Put your anger towards those who couldn't even be bothered to do so.

Why? The election was won and lost in swing states, and voter turnout in swing states was roughly the same in 2024 and 2020.

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