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One of the men goes for her phone. The other grabs at her hands. Ozturk screams. Shock and fear ripple through her voice. Two masked women join them, tugging at her backpack, peeling the straps from her shoulders. “I’m going somewhere, I need to call someone,” she pleads. “We’re the police. Relax,” one of the men says in response.

They surround her. Then, one by one, they pull their neck gaiters up to cover their faces. “You don’t look like police,” a voice off screen says. “Why are you hiding your faces?” The questions continue, but the figures don’t respond. Instead, they cuff Ozturk, cross the street, and put her in an unmarked SUV. She is gone.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Can we stop talking about "we should, we should"? Who is actually doing?

The time for talk was over November 4th, but it is beyond over now - arm yourself, period.

Where are the community resources for community building and fighting against ICE tactics - this is what the internet is for? Who is running the underground railroad? Why are every single one of us not educated on TOR and VPNs? Who are we primarying? What are the plans for removing propaganda from our real life communities?

There are no accessible answers to these questions - this is unacceptable, and we get this in order now. No one is coming to save us, we must do it ourselves. We have a 2 month window between now and when the most in-person activity will happen (summer).

P.S. Everyone screams at the gun owners and politicians about why they won't do anything. But why would they? They'll basically throw their lives away for nothing - especially when the people they claim to fight for are so fucking spineless.

If this woman can have her First Amendment RIGHT stripped and arrested in the street by plain clothes, and every single person in this country isn't rioting, guns and laws will not fix it.

P.S P.S If you are not from America and are in a relatively free country, one of the best things you can do is host the resources for fighting the Nazis. American companies, individuals, and organization are automatically compromised.

If are an American, create an onion service or host using an EU VPS and domain registar.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Our inner child will refuse to believe this, but history has shown us that fascists cannot be stopped peacefully.

Concealed carry might be our only real defense in the future

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Maybe but One gun vs. 10 isn't gonna do much. Needs to be combined with community organization. Get to know your neighbors and look out for and protect those likely to be targeted next. Organize your workplace and protect your coworkers from ICE. If you don't speak up there will be no one to speak up for you when it's your turn.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The government revoked Tufts doctoral student Rumeysa Ozturk's visa due to her pro-Palestinian activism, according to Secretary of State Marco Rubio, who added the State Department may have revoked more than 300 student visas since the beginning of the second Trump administration.

"It might be more than 300 at this point. We do it every day. Every time I find one of these lunatics, I take away their visa," Rubio said during a press conference in Guyana on Thursday.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/tufts-students-visa-revoked-due-activism-rubio/story?id=120226954

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago

What. The. Actual. Fuck.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Remember the outrage when stuff like that happens in China?
Ever since living there a few years back, I keep saying how your two countries are so fucking similar, and it getting truer every day.

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[–] [email protected] 410 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (32 children)

For the record, and I know I'm not the first to say it, this woman committed NO crime. She didn't overstay a visa, she didn't protest illegally. She wrote something the administration didn't like.

For that, she was arrested by 8 masked officers in the middle of the street, in broad daylight. She was thrown in the back on an unmarked SUV. She's received no legal representation. No trial. Not even charges, because again, she committed no crime.

Americans, you realize you're watching the death of your rights and the rule of law, right? You have no illusions about the fact that you are defenseless? There is no longer any guardrail between you and an El Salvadoran prison camp. In something that reminds me very much of Stalin, an accusation is now a conviction.

[–] [email protected] 97 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Defenseless is a good word, it seems like we're all just waiting for a savior to show up and rescue us. It doesn't help that a large amount of Americans see protest as pointless right now. What it feels like is the bystander effect on a national level.

The worst part is how many people either support or just brush it off.

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 94 points 3 days ago (2 children)

“We’re the police relax” says the gestapo mother fucker disappearing people

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[–] [email protected] 198 points 4 days ago (33 children)

Look at their body language.

These aren't law enforcement professionals detaining a suspect.

These are Nazi Brown Shirt thugs ganging up on a fucking PhD student.

This country is nosediving HARD. Arm yourselves. I would never allow plain-clothed thugs to push me into an unmarked van and take me to a secondary location. You are fighting for your life at that point for all you know.

[–] [email protected] 84 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I want to respond with something. But everything I write is so fucking dark and violent. Here goes, I'll try again:

If I were in Nazi Germany, and I saw this go down- a Jew or disabled or protester getting disappeared- and these Nazi brown shirts were shot and killed, or beaten to a pulp with metal bars, fucking stomped to death, I think it would be just.

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 3 days ago (5 children)

This is horrifying. This person broke no laws. If Trump is doing this to valid green card holders for exercising their first amendment rights, then we are one degree of separation from Trump doing this to U.S. citizens who criticize him.

It's only going to continue getting worse. Make an exit plan if you haven't already.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Most Americans: Yeah but it didn't happen to me.

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[–] [email protected] 134 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Type of shit they tell you to expect in China, except its the USA

[–] [email protected] 59 points 4 days ago (10 children)

It's the kind of thing that happened in Nazi Germany.

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[–] [email protected] 384 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Ozturk’s lawyer later said she hadn’t been able to contact her and had no idea of her whereabouts.

America, the land of the free... Right?

[–] [email protected] 209 points 4 days ago

Remember when conservatives were all like fear mongering that Obama was going to do this to them? It was always projection.

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[–] [email protected] 121 points 4 days ago (3 children)

AP's article mentions that Ozturk was posted on this website, https://canarymission.org/

After the op-ed was published, Ozturk’s name, photograph and work history were published on the website Canary Mission, which describes itself as documenting people who “promote hatred of the U.S.A., Israel and Jews on North American college campuses.”

'Tis a spooky place. No names, none of the articles have bylines, contact is just a webform, domain registration is anonymized, donation link is being washed thru some company called RTech Digital Marketing out of India.

Really got me wondering, who the fuck are these people and why do they seem to have ICE's ear.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 3 days ago (3 children)

This is inexcusable. Permanent residents of this country are historically entitled to the first amendment.

If they can change that precedent, then there's little standing in the way of anyone else.

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[–] [email protected] 296 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (13 children)

A Department of Homeland Security spokesperson later claimed Ozturk “engaged in activities in support of Hamas, a foreign terrorist organization.” The person said Ozturk, who is from Turkey, had had her student visa revoked.

To be perfectly clear, Ozturk is not accused of breaking the law. The Department of Homeland Security hasn’t bothered to explain its reasoning, but several outlets reported that Ozturk co-authored a student opinion piece urging Tufts to recognize the International Court of Justice’s declaration of a “plausible risk of genocide” unfolding in Gaza and to divest from Israel. You can read the article if you like. It does not mention Hamas.

WT actual F? A school opinion piece gets you disappeared??

[–] [email protected] 190 points 4 days ago (15 children)

We FUCKING TOLD ALL OF YOU THIS WOULD HAPPEN. And you said we were being hyperbolic.

It will get worse.

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[–] [email protected] 205 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (7 children)

What was fascinating, or perhaps horrific is a better word, about the article that I didn't know about is the brief mention of "The Canary Mission"

Here's from their about page:

Canary Mission documents individuals and organizations that promote hatred of the USA, Israel and Jews on North American college campuses and beyond. Canary Mission investigates hatred across the entire political spectrum, including the far right, far left and anti-Israel activists.

Canary Mission is motivated by a desire to combat the rise in anti-Semitism on college campuses. We pursue our mission by presenting the words and deeds of individuals and organizations that engage in anti-Semitism, racism and bigotry on the far right, far left and among the array of organizations that comprise the anti-Semitic Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions (BDS) movement.

Essentially they gather dossiers on private individuals that they claim are anti-semitic. So, I looked up the woman that was taken off the street like a Ukrainian draft-dodger.

https://canarymission.org/individual/Rumeysa_Ozturk

Rumeysa Ozturk engaged in anti-Israel activism in March 2024, in the wake of the Hamas terrorist attacks on Israelis on October 7, 2023.

Ozturk is a supporter of the Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions (BDS) movement.

What was the anti-Israel activism, you ask? I figured it was some sort of protest. Sort of like the one in New York where they occupied a building.

Nope

On March 26, 2024, Ozturk co-authored an op-ed published in the Tufts Daily newspaper titled: "Try again, President Kumar: Renewing calls for Tufts to adopt March 4 TCU Senate resolutions." The authors urged "President Kumar and the Tufts administration to meaningfully engage with and actualize the resolutions passed by the Senate."

The op-ed referred to the passing of anti-Israel resolutions by the Tufts Community Union (TCU) Senate, which demanded the University "...acknowledge the Palestinian genocide, apologize for University President Sunil Kumar’s statements, disclose its investments, and divest from companies with direct or indirect ties to Israel."

At Tufts university, the Community Union Senate (not really sure what this is. a student council or something) passed a 3/5ths majority resolution urging the president of the university to

  1. acknowledge the Palestinian genocide

  2. apologize for some statements, I don't know what

  3. disclose its investments

  4. divest from companies with direct or indirect ties to Israel

She co-wrote an op-ed essentially demanding the president follow the resolution that was passed. That's the "anti-Israel activism" she's guilty of. I suppose that's enough to be deported. Be careful out there guys. If you aren't a citizen, shut up about your political views until you are. Because there are eyes out there watching everything you do. Even if you are.. consider what you are doing. You may be making an enemy of a vindictive state that is willing to break the rules.

Here's the op-ed, in case you're interested: https://www.tuftsdaily.com/article/2024/03/4ftk27sm6jkj

These resolutions were the product of meaningful debate by the Senate and represent a sincere effort to hold Israel accountable for clear violations of international law. Credible accusations against Israel include accounts of deliberate starvation and indiscriminate slaughter of Palestinian civilians and plausible genocide.

Lock 'em up, I guess. If you believe that Palestinian civilians have a right to life then you are a terrorist-sympathizer in this administration's opinion.

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 3 days ago (17 children)

Did we just watch a woman get abducted by sex traffickers?

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[–] [email protected] 194 points 4 days ago (3 children)

“We’re the police. Relax”

“We’re the SS. Be very afraid”. There, FTFY

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago

The exact thing they used to say China did!

[–] [email protected] 113 points 4 days ago (29 children)

If you see this start filming and get them to shout their name. This is not how an arrest is done in a normal country. This is how you disappear people and how militias can fake being police to abduct and kill people.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yup.

If plain-clothed thugs try to push me into an unmarked van I have to assume I need to start fighting for my life. I don't give a fuck who they say they are. If you are who you are, wear a uniform, act professional, and show me identification.

Everyone needs to purchase a firearm and start training.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago

So they're revoking student visas without telling the students?

[–] [email protected] 56 points 3 days ago (4 children)

We've become so complacent. A unified community would have intervened, violently if necessary. I would love nothing more than to see a crowd of folks popping out of houses and cars and surrounding these terrorists at gunpoint.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Makes me wonder if it would be a good idea to take down my "Hate has no home here" flag, that is prominently displayed in my yard.

We live in a very diverse neighborhood, and I'm happy to have this flag up. But I don't need any billy-jackoffs coming around causing a fuss, or worse.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

It is possibly all the more reason to keep it up. I don't want to be a target either, but these people need to know when they have entered hostile territory.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

Do not take it down! They are acting exactly according to plan and the next step is to have people like you be afraid to openly display your ideals. Taking down that flag would be a win for them.

I understand that it is frightening and the urge to fly under the radar is growing, but now isn't the time to take those flags down. It's the time to fly them high.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's terrifying. That is absolutely terrifying. Unidentified, masked people in all black kidnapping people right off the street in unmarked cars.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 3 days ago (6 children)

This is a fantastic way to get cops shot and killed in the street. Please, PLEASE try this shit in Oakland or Los Angeles I am begging you.

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[–] [email protected] 221 points 4 days ago (2 children)

This is terrifying. Anybody can pretend to be ICE and kidnap in broad daylight.

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 4 days ago (13 children)

Legally speaking if some one interfered or resisted wouldn't they be justified? No clear sign they are the law and they refuse to identify themselves

[–] [email protected] 62 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

A legal defense can easily be mounted. If they did not identify themselves as police officers, or had any proof of being police, you are clear to use lethal force. The victim had all right to believe that they are a victim of first degree kidnapping, a crime with a punishment that is 2nd only to 1st degree murder in US law.

Their conduct is not one you would expect of law enforcement. So I will say it. Shoot. Shoot to kill.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Meanwhile Rubio is proudly bragging about revoking student visas entirely for pro-Palestinian speech. Marco Rubio is not the voice of reason in the white house, he's an enemy of the Constitution.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 days ago (2 children)

For many years I was against punching nazis. It was time for debate. I am still against punching peaceful protestors.

But secret police deserve more than a punch.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 days ago

This is the very definition of terrorism:
"Terrorism is the calculated use of violence to create fear and achieve political goals, often targeting civilians...."

[–] [email protected] 145 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Literally disappearing people off the street

Didn't the U.S. fight a war against a country and its leader who did the same shit? I was never very proud to be an American because this country has done some fucked up shit since 1776. But this is downright terrifying to me as someone who is disabled and considered a parasite by Elon because if they aren't stopped after this then it's game over for any "non-white" people, LGBTQ+, and poor people in general to be disappeared.

This may be why they want Greenland so bad 🤔

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[–] [email protected] 125 points 4 days ago (5 children)

From 1933 to 1934 in 3 months. Clock is ticking dear american people.

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[–] [email protected] 134 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Fucking Nazis. Where the fuck is she

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