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[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Many Americans don't like either party at this point. Thus the low voter turnout and apathy. Many vote Democrat as the lesser of two evils. Though, the goalpost keep getting pushed to the right, to the point that Democratic party is well right of center. I understand the apathy at this point. But I wish that people understood that if we want things to come back to the left, then we're going to have to vote overwhelmingly Democratic for a while. And not just every four years. Everybody whines the Democrats don't get anything done when they're elected. But they generally only have two years of majority in the house, Senate, because they can't be bothered to vote every two years...

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

they're not good guys they are simply more competent at government

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Stop re-electing these ancient incumbents who are WAY too comfortable being Republican-lite. Vote for younger candidates, preferably someone who was born AFTER the Battle of the Bulge.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't think that makes a difference. Ben Shapiro is young and is alt-right

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I think it makes a huge difference- Shapiro is just one person. And to prove the point, look how much influence he, a young guy, is having on our political landscape. Not that they're the perfect politicians, but look at how much support people like AOC and Tulsi Gabbard drum up. We need people that are energized and that can energize others.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

It is not about wether someone is young or old, but that the system is rotten and needs to go. Also, we are not getting anything better in this system.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Is Ben Shaprio a democrat candidate?

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago
[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

We need progressive primary challengers, and we need PARTICIPATION in the primaries. Primary voter turnout is like 15% or something equally pathetic last I checked.

[โ€“] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago

Yup.

Millions of Americans LOVE complaining about our presidential nominees but are nowhere to be found during the primaries. Can't be bothered to be proactive. Can only be bothered to complain after the fact.

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[โ€“] [email protected] -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (9 children)

Your title should have read "How do you destroy the notion that Republicans are the good guys?"

There are far too many Americans that support the far right. They've been convinced that conservatism will protect their interests, even while it blatantly destroys them. It is a morally greater objective to turn these people around, and more practically achievable, than undermining its opponent.

Yes, we know. You think liberalism is an ally of conservatism, not an opponent. We're all very impressed with your extensive knowledge, bravo. You've shown nuanced and deep understanding of the political landscape by criticizing the contender of the enemy.

I think most people who criticize the left are like you. More interested in stroking their egos than actually solving a problem. You're trying to demonstrate mastery of a subject by being critical of it, not because you want it to change but because you want people to be impressed with you.

If you actually wanted things to get better you'd be teaching people to undermine conservatism, which is the greater threat.

Be better.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

It is a morally greater objective to turn these people around, and more practically achievable, than undermining its opponent.

The task is to build a mass movement to the left of Democrats. Are you going to have better luck building that out of the many Democrats who are disillusioned by the ineffectiveness of their party? Or is it going to be easier to bring in the folks cheering seig heils at Republican events?

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