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I know lemm.ee is hosted in the EU, but I can't find that information for lemmy.world.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

FYI everyone who's sharing a Cloudflare location is only mildly doxxing themself

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 hours ago

They probably use Cloudflare for Loadbalancing and Anti DDOS. This doesn’t mean it is hosted on Cloudflare, it is only a proxy. The point is not to show you the real IP so you can’t attack the origin server.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

How dare you make us click a link and read for ourselves? Not what I signed up for.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Well of course not, you joined lemm.ee

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago

After re-reading the fine-print I hereby fully commit my soul to the spirit of lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (4 children)

AfaIk, they are hosted at Hetzner, so physically in Germany or Finland.

Edit: Source https://lemmy.world/post/22397634

~~Edit 2: The ip online tool on the website below indicates that it may actually be physically hosted in US (on a virtual server as, according to Wikipedia, Hetzner doesn't offer bare metal servers in US).~~

https://www.ipaddress.com/website/lemmy.world/

Edit 3: The IP is from Cloudflare, the servers are from Hetzner in EU.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago

AfaIk, they are hosted at Hetzner, so physically in Germany or Finland.

If I remember correctly, the main servers are in Hetzner's data centre in Finland with back-ups in Germany. Although they have a complex set-up so it may not be as cleanly divided up these days.

I suspect half the Fediverse runs on Hetzner at this point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Hetzner also has US servers now, FYI.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago

It's Germany. You can tell because the ToS mentions the service being subject to German law.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The US IP address is for Cloudflare, who are acting as a front end for things like DDoS protection. A lot of lemmy servers use them, which is unfortunate, but there don't seem to be any viable European alternatives.

You can check the details with the whois command. The relevant bit when querying for one of their addresses is:

NetRange:       104.16.0.0 - 104.31.255.255
CIDR:           104.16.0.0/12                         
NetName:        CLOUDFLARENET                         
NetHandle:      NET-104-16-0-0-1                      
Parent:         NET104 (NET-104-0-0-0-0)              
NetType:        Direct Allocation                     
OriginAS:       AS13335                               
Organization:   Cloudflare, Inc. (CLOUD14)            
RegDate:        2014-03-28                            
Updated:        2024-09-04                            
Comment:        All Cloudflare abuse reporting can be
done via https://www.cloudflare.com/abuse             
Comment:        Geofeed: https://api.cloudflare.com/local-ip-ranges.csv                                     
Ref:            https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/104.16.0.0
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Thank you. So that's why you 'see' an US IP address while the physical server may be located anywhere, e.g. in Germany.

By looking at their Wikipedia, I've already found out that Cloudflare doesn't do hosting.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

Hosting tools point to Toronto, Canada via Cloudflare.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

You have all information here.

https://fediverse.observer/

So Server Host for lemmy.world is Cloudflare, Inc.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 hours ago

Cloudflare doesn't do the hosting, just DNS/domain related related stuff. LW says they're hosting at Hetzner.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

lemm.ee is also hosted on Cloudflare.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You'd be kinda stupid not to use some form of cloud hosting solution as a small time website these days. Cloudflare or AWS or whatever you prefer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Why is that? Mostly security I guess?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 minutes ago

Security, but also ability to scale and not have to host your own equipment.